cns – really need some guidance please!

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    Lollie
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    I posted a few days ago about hypoglycaemia & would like to thank the guys that responded to my questions. Yesterday I had 2 eggs for breakfast cooked in butter, as recommended, & went out Christmas shopping with my partner. After walking less than 200 yards, I collapsed. I couldn't see clearly, my head, arms & legs were numb. I got home & spent the rest of the day in bed feeling like I was going to die. Please don't tell me to man-up - the only time I've felt that bad before was when I was 22 weeks pregnant with pleurisy & a pulmonary embolism & yes I am lucky to still be here! It felt like my body had no energy to do anything. Can anybody please tell me what's happening to me?!? It has been really scary. This morning I feel just as bad. Thank you in advance.

    #210241

    Richard Schmitt
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    Try increasing whole foods. A couple eggs will satiate you not really provide the necessary energy to do errands. I would have beef and/or eggs with butter. That way it is slightly heavier and more of a caloric load.

    #210239

    CBachelor17
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    Is this post CarbNite or on just a standard ULC day? If its post CN it seems like your BS levels are still pretty elevated until the morning after and isn't going down slowly- its crashing really fast. Are you prescribed any medications? It seems that your symptoms are really severe- and could be a result of an underlying issue (that only a doctor could determine) or possibly a medication reacting oddly with your body because of the cycle you are on. Have you had any surgeries? If theres not something like above ^ going on, the only thing I could think would be to possibly supplement some BCAA (or just Leucine) as soon as you wake up. This will cause insulin secretion and could help to regulate the drop in BS levels.

    #210238

    Roadblock
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    Is this post CarbNite or on just a standard ULC day? If its post CN it seems like your BS levels are still pretty elevated until the morning after and isn't going down slowly- its crashing really fast. Are you prescribed any medications? It seems that your symptoms are really severe- and could be a result of an underlying issue (that only a doctor could determine) or possibly a medication reacting oddly with your body because of the cycle you are on. Have you had any surgeries? If theres not something like above ^ going on, the only thing I could think would be to possibly supplement some BCAA (or just Leucine) as soon as you wake up. This will cause insulin secretion and could help to regulate the drop in BS levels.

    That's the winner I think right there. Hypoglycemia will only last, at most, an hour or so after your first meal. That was way too severe an incident to just be a problem with hypoglycemia. Go and see a doctor and get some blood work done.RB

    #210240

    Lollie
    Member

    ok, thanks guys. It was an ulc day. I have had some extra veg carbs today & feel a bit more human but I think you are right, there is obviously some underlying problem which has been heightened, I am not on any meds, etc.Thanks again.

    #210242

    cloudybrain
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    How is your water intake? Low carb diets flush out water and salt from your body like crazy. I get the light headed dizzy feeling when I'm dehydrated. I add a few pinches of salt to water jug (my poor man's gatorade). But really, I feel that your body is just trying to get use to the changes of your diet.Also how fast did you start your CNS protocol? Did you jump right in? And finally, another thing you might want to increase your intake of is potassium and magnesium. I suggested a multi vitamin in my last post to you just in case you're not having any drops in levels of required minerals. But I've read posts about people on low carbs going to the hospital and finding out it's because they are severally low on magnesium, potassium, or copper. But "low" could be an understatement, where in this case, low carbers eat a lot of meat, increasing their zinc intake, where coincidentally zinc and copper fight for the same pathways, if you have too much zinc, not enough copper will go through because of that zinc overflow. Get it?

    #210243

    CBachelor17
    Member

    Numb limbs, confusion, and fainting arnt common from mineral depletion. I would deff see a doctor as I thought this was post CN. On a standard ULC day it could be 1000 things. Rather than experiment with things just get an answer from your doctor. Don't want to play with your well being.

    #210244

    Lollie
    Member

    hi again, many thanks for your posts – just to give you an up-date…went to the drs, he refuses to do any blood work as as far as he is concerned it is all diet related and until I start eating a "balanced" diet (oh yes!) I can not expect to feel well! Yes, I did laugh when I left!so, where to go from here?...I thought I had belt & braced myself before starting cns - I take a multi-vit, drink in excess of a gallon of water a day, add salt liberally & start the day with a teaspoon full of salt in warm water, take mag citrate & chromium. I was eating paleo for approx a year prior to cns but was consuming a barrow of vegs although not much fruit. I did just jump into this so possibly a slower reduction in carbs would have been a better option? I was also wondering if it is a possible candida die-off too due to the reduction in carbs?Anyways, I was so ticked off with the "eat carbs" lecture I got that I ate a huge paleo meat & veg lunch & have to admit I feel buckets better.If I am unable to reduce my carbs to below 30g a day over a period of time, I am assuming cns will just not be a viable option for me (boo hoo!). I have not looked into cbl as I do feel my bf is too high & I don't lift massive, yet. I am sincere in my thanks to you for your help.  I have read the forum for some time now and some of you are like mini-idols of mine with your wealth of experience and knowledge, and your desire to share it to make us all the best we can be. (sorry to gush, must be the keto-flu & candida die-off!!)Am hopeful I will be back, better and stronger and less carb-dependent.kind regards, lollie.

    #210245

    Gnomer
    Participant

    I think you should read this. If you can't seem to do 30 carbs there are other options for a low carb diet. I have played around with my carb intake and there are ways to make CNS work for you. http://www.thepaleomom.com/2012/07/optimizing-carbohydrate-intake-for-your.html It is a 3 part series.

    #210246

    Lollie
    Member

    Brilliant stuff – my hope is restored. Thank you for the link. Cracking photo by the way! 🙂

    #210247

    cloudybrain
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    Lollie, throughout your posts, I haven't really seen you talk about your fat consumption. You mostly talk about eating meats and veggies. But what about your fats? Like butter, coconut oil, ghee, tallow, animal fats, etc. Do you eat a lot of it? Because if you don't, that's your problem right there.

    #210248

    TCB
    Participant

    so, where to go from here?...

    A different doctor. Preferably one that isn't an ass.Doctor's need to realize THEY are the employee. You are paying them for a service, and he/she isn't out anything by writing up some lab orders for blood tests. It's stupid they refused.Seriously, find a new doc.

    #210249

    Gl;itch.e
    Member

    I thought I had belt & braced myself before starting cns - I take a multi-vit, drink in excess of a gallon of water a day, add salt liberally & start the day with a teaspoon full of salt in warm water, take mag citrate & chromium. I was eating paleo for approx a year prior to cns but was consuming a barrow of vegs although not much fruit. I did just jump into this so possibly a slower reduction in carbs would have been a better option? I was also wondering if it is a possible candida die-off too due to the reduction in carbs?

    On water: Dont just drink water for the sake of it. Despite adding salt to your food too much water can cause issues. In fact unless its really hot and you are sweating buckets you can probably get away with the water you get from food and other beverages like tea's, coffee etc. More water does not equal better results or health. In fact often the reverse. If you were already eating paleo (and it doesnt sound like much carbs any way) I would have probably suggested trying to "backload" your carbs before trying CBL or CNS as written. If you didnt lose the weight or fat you wanted with paleo foods I dont think CNS is going to do much magic here. How much carbs per day would you estimate you were eating on the paleo diet? and what kinds?

    (sorry to gush, must be the keto-flu & candida die-off!!)

    ahahah! I hope thats tongue-in-cheek because thats seriously funny! Candida diets are so backwards!

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