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    Joseph Montalbano
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    I recently switched my training to twice a day where I lift heavy in the morning and more high rep pump work about 6 hours later. I have a ton of time to rest/eat/recover right now so I want to take advantage of it. Was wondering if any of you have experience with how to backload using two a days. I was thinking about waking up having some cc oil and coffee, training, then having around 85 grams of carbs (ripe banana, sweet potato, some rice crispys) and then going back to protein plus fat meals until i train again at night, and having the rest of my carbs then (around 315 grams of carbs at night).let me know if you think there is a better way to go about it

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    Personally, I have Coffee and MCT pre-WO for my morning session, then stick with 15g whey, 5g leucine, 10g creatine PWO, then I have intra-workout during my evening sessions, starting 10-15 minutes in. I've been playing with 20g pre-workout carbs for my night sessions recently as well. The big thing about it, don't be afraid of food, you will need to eat a good amount in all. 400g of carbs sounds like a good start.

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    Brandon D Christ
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    I recently switched my training to twice a day where I lift heavy in the morning and more high rep pump work about 6 hours later. I have a ton of time to rest/eat/recover right now so I want to take advantage of it. Was wondering if any of you have experience with how to backload using two a days. I was thinking about waking up having some cc oil and coffee, training, then having around 85 grams of carbs (ripe banana, sweet potato, some rice crispys) and then going back to protein plus fat meals until i train again at night, and having the rest of my carbs then (around 315 grams of carbs at night).let me know if you think there is a better way to go about it

    It's perfectly fine, but I would do it in the reverse manner.  Do pump work in the morning and do heavy work at night.  You are stronger in the afternoon and the heavy work translocates tGLUT much better so you will partition your backloads better.I do think 85 g of carbs PWO in the morning is overkill though.  I think 20 g would be all you need.

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    Joseph Montalbano
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    Personally, I have Coffee and MCT pre-WO for my morning session, then stick with 15g whey, 5g leucine, 10g creatine PWO, then I have intra-workout during my evening sessions, starting 10-15 minutes in. I've been playing with 20g pre-workout carbs for my night sessions recently as well. The big thing about it, don't be afraid of food, you will need to eat a good amount in all. 400g of carbs sounds like a good start.

    Yeah I have some Plasma sitting around so I was thinking about adding it, just didnt know how much that mid training insulin spike would activate the fat cells thus making the backload less effective@Ibob- You're right, was thinking that 85 was more than I needed, was just reading that lifting actually burns less glycogen then I thought it would. I actually began having those workouts switched but felt that my strength lowered and would rather deadlift and squat with fresh legs. Do you think it makes that much of a difference?

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    Brandon D Christ
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    Personally, I have Coffee and MCT pre-WO for my morning session, then stick with 15g whey, 5g leucine, 10g creatine PWO, then I have intra-workout during my evening sessions, starting 10-15 minutes in. I've been playing with 20g pre-workout carbs for my night sessions recently as well. The big thing about it, don't be afraid of food, you will need to eat a good amount in all. 400g of carbs sounds like a good start.

    Yeah I have some Plasma sitting around so I was thinking about adding it, just didnt know how much that mid training insulin spike would activate the fat cells thus making the backload less effective@Ibob- You're right, was thinking that 85 was more than I needed, was just reading that lifting actually burns less glycogen then I thought it would. I actually began having those workouts switched but felt that my strength lowered and would rather deadlift and squat with fresh legs. Do you think it makes that much of a difference?

    What does your current split look like for the entire week?

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    Joseph Montalbano
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    I don't know what the policy is for posting links but if you Google tnation two a day training for radical gains is my basic outline

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    Brandon D Christ
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    I don't know what the policy is for posting links but if you Google tnation two a day training for radical gains is my basic outline

    Ok well maybe you should keep it as you were if you are following this program.  I thought you meant the morning sessions were the main sessions and the evening workouts was fluff stuff.It sounds like the real meat and potatoes is done at night, which is what you want.

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