Thanks ibobland08!  I will miss my almond cocoa!  I don't really like fatty meat so I'll try and up the oily fish and oils .

The problem I have with this is that consuming most of your fat from oils screws up satiety signals.  Overeating may become an issue.You don't like chicken wings, ribs, bacon, and ribeyes?

This is really interesting for me as I wasn't/ haven't been calorie counting at all, just sticking with the approved foods.  I've been working out and getting loads of sleep so I may have some health issues here that are contributing.  I aSo acknowledge the time frame - need to work at it a bit longer personally.HOWEVER!  Today I actually checked the carb, fat and protein content of every meal and drink I had today.  So far I've eaten 65g protein, 115g fat and 5g carbs!  If I should be having 100g fat and protein then I am clearly eating more fat than I thought.  I have been adding heavy cream to my coffees and not realising the amount  of fat was almost 30g per cup as I add lots of cream.  I haven't even had supper (it's 5.30pm here) today so my fat intake could be another 30g or more on a normal day.  I will continue to monitor this and post with some progress shots over the coming weeks.  By then I will have my thyroid and blood test results. Thanks guys

Those macros I gave you were just an idea.  Don't feel like those are the numbers you "should" hit each day.  I don't know you, so I can't give you exact numbers.  Plus that recommendation was on the lower side.

Sano,I highly disagree. And I didn't use recommended caloric intakes. I simply picked an amount and adjusted up or down based on my measurements (weight, calipers, and measuring tape). I went from not losing an ounce for months on end when not counting calories (even though adhering to all CN food selection rules), to suddenly dropping body fat when finally tracking calories. The numbers don't lie. Calorie counting was the key for me, and more than likely one of the main reasons D Fit isn't budging.

No the key was you were over eating.  All calorie counting did was expose this problem.  You don't have to count calories to reduce your food intake.  I want to clarify that counting calories fine if you like, but it really is unnecessary.

Ibo,Exactly........calorie counting is what exposes the overeating......and overeating is the #1 problem most have when they don't see fat burning results on CN, or any diet for that matter.  Too much focus is given on "maybe I'm allergic to such and such food", "Oh, perhaps too many insulin spikes", etc., etc., etc....when many times it was simply down to the fact that the foods the person was eating were perfectly fine / "approved", but too much of it.Oh, and I never said counting calories and lower food intake weren't the same thing. Whatever method one chooses, whether counting calories, weighing, counting portions, etc., the bottom line is the same.  DK decided to track macros/calories and discovered possibly eating maintainence or above levels, thus = no bodyfat loss.

I agree with you.  I want to bang my head off the wall when someone claims the reason they aren't losing fat is because they are eating nuts instead of butter.However, I don't think overeating is that big of a problem with most people.  Most of the people who struggle on CNS have been chronically dieting for years and have screwed up metabolisms due to dieting history. 

I'm guessing most of you are not in the uk but Interestingly there is a programme on BBC 2 here in the Uk right now on 'Horizons' on sugar v fat which is reinforcing everything that Kiefer says.

I usually like Horizon's vids. This one did not make sense at all. ______________________________CNS'ing right now. My blog: http://stratnat.blogspot.com

I saw that documentary because a link was posted to it on another site.  I thought it made perfect sense.  Those twins went on two opposing diets; one when no/low carb, the other went low fat.  Their results demonstrated that carbs aren't the demon that many now make them out to be.Where the experiment was severely flawed was in the fact that they didn't make the twins eat a very specific and same amount of calories/food.  Then, you could better compare side by side if either was overall superior.  However, I liked how they showed that the low carb diet was horrible for performance.