CBL without standard weight-lifting?

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    Razorburne
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    Hi all,I'm new to the game and currently doing CNS and feeling great.  I plan on sticking with CNS for right now and likely purchase CBL when 2.0 comes out.  My question is whether I can benefit on CBL if my training is mostly focused on bodyweight exercise, kettlebell (single and double lifts), sledgehammer slams, etc. versus the more traditional body building gym-based workouts (bench press, back squats, barbell deadlifts, etc.)?  I'm not choosing one over the other for any other reason than what I currently have in my home gym, which will have to suffice for the near future.  My original guess is yes, b/c what I have read says that pre-requisite for solid gains is working HARD, which could be done with any form of training.  But I don't want to assume...I would rather get some feedback from people with the knowledge and possibly hands on experience.Thanks everyone!  I look forward to hearing any thoughts you have...

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    Richard Schmitt
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    Eh that's debatable. Will it work yes, having your carbs at night is overall better, will it provide the exact same benefits as heavy resistance training? Perhaps but not as well. I'm sure 2.0 will explain more.

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    Razorburne
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    Thanks, Tex…I appreciate the feedback.  My thinking was in line with yours – I don't actually think that bodyweight work etc. will have the same effect as compared to someone doing very heavy resistance training with loaded squats and deadlifts, on any type of diet plan.  Just like male gymnasts (impressive muscle with low fat levels) are not as big as those doing mostly heavy resistance training – the two types of training produce different results.  I was just curious whether the traditional resistance training was a necessity to achieve the fat loss and muscle gain that CBL promotes or whether one could do other forms of training and reap the rewards of CBL.Guess I'll have to check out 2.0

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    Brandon D Christ
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    Depends what you mean.  You can lose body fat by eating carbs at night with any type of training.  Or even no training.  However, if you are referring to the inefficiencies that occur as a result of heavy weight training, which allow people using CBL to consume quite a bit of carbs, then no.  Bodyweight training and kettlebells will not translocate GLUT4 like lifting weights will.  Reason being they just don't provide the necessary mechanical tension on the muscles.

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    Tim D Geisler
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    Depends what you mean.  You can lose body fat by eating carbs at night with any type of training.  Or even no training.  However, if you are referring to the inefficiencies that occur as a result of heavy weight training, which allow people using CBL to consume quite a bit of carbs, then no.  Bodyweight training and kettlebells will not translocate GLUT4 like lifting weights will.  Reason being they just don't provide the necessary mechanical tension on the muscles.

    +1straight from the book: "Recent years have blessed us with several of these hybrid wholebody training programs designed to devastate the energy systems of  the body without providing much benefit. Such programs include P90X and its successor P90X2, Insanity Training and CrossFit. Carb Back-Loading, as outlined in this book, is not suited to these training modalities for the same reasons  as endurance training. In an upcoming book, I will address advanced nutrition for these types of programs. (Page 194). "

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    Razorburne
    Member

    ibob and newbiewar,thanks so much for the in-depth feedback.  That really helps me wrap my head around it further.  I suppose the book he is referring to is likely CBL 2.0 --- that's great as I plan on getting it once it comes out.  Until then I guess I will stick with CNS.Thanks everyone!

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    Tim D Geisler
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    ibob and newbiewar,thanks so much for the in-depth feedback.  That really helps me wrap my head around it further.  I suppose the book he is referring to is likely CBL 2.0 --- that's great as I plan on getting it once it comes out.  Until then I guess I will stick with CNS.Thanks everyone!

    There are a lot of benefits to CBL besides just GLUT4 translocation.Because his book is dedicated to muscleheads, thats what it covers.  But there is a lot more health benefits that are not covered in his book.

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