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January 5, 2015 at 10:10 pm #228910
Melvin McLainParticipantEven the Atkins diet is (alledgedly) supposed to benefit diabetics. It requires close monitoring for a while because blood sugar levels naturally drop on a low-carb diet and insulin doses must be lowered accordingly. Again, alledgedly…
January 5, 2015 at 10:55 pm #228911
Penny DannerParticipantPenny, thanks for the info. I have listened to all of them, but I will make a note to go back and listen to that one when I am ready to do carbs again. 😉
Okay. 🙂 Yes, I've listened to all of them and several times for some of them, but I understand more NOW than I did then when I first listened to that one. It REALLY hit me. But yes, when you're ready; I just found that it hit me just the right way when I was ready to hear it I suppose.
January 5, 2015 at 11:06 pm #228912
Jenelle BrewerParticipantI guess, when I first read this question this morning, I was thinking along the lines of… I already know that cutting out carbs is a great way to lower blood sugar and keep it pretty steady. It's the carbs that cause the massive swings. That's why my answer was more… hey, what about considering just keto… because I read about diabetes in all of my keto books. As ibob said, LOTS of information out there about that.However, now that I have read this conversation and thought about it some more -- I realize that your brother may very well (?) already be on a high-carb diet. In that case, I absolutely agree that CBL or CN could be a better move for him. Having elevated insulin levels all.the.time is not good for anyone. Being able to use less insulin sounds like a win to me. He would just have to be very observant of how his body reacts when the carbs are added in -- I would think especially in a CN situation, due to physiological insulin resistance which can occur with low-carb diets (and I believe that is what has happened with me, after going ketogenic for a long period and then re-introducing CNs):"One caveat here is that very low-carb diets will produce elevated fasting blood glucose levels. Why? Because low-carb diets induce insulin resistance. Restricting carbohydrates produces a natural drop in insulin levels, which in turn activates hormone sensitive lipase. Fat tissue is then broken down, and non-esterified fatty acids (a.k.a. “free fatty acids” or NEFA) are released into the bloodstream. These NEFA are taken up by the muscles, which use them as fuel. And since the muscle’s needs for fuel has been met, it decreases sensitivity to insulin. You can read more about this at Hyperlipid.So, if you eat a low-carb diet and have borderline high FBG (i.e. 90-105), it may not be cause for concern. Your post-meal blood sugars and A1c levels are more important."Taken from:http://chriskresser.com/when-your-%E2%80%9Cnormal%E2%80%9D-blood-sugar-isn%E2%80%99t-normal-part-2Here is the Hyperlipid post about physiological insulin resistance:http://high-fat-nutrition.blogspot.com/2007/10/physiological-insulin-resistance.html
January 6, 2015 at 2:01 pm #228913
HeisenbergParticipantI guess, when I first read this question this morning, I was thinking along the lines of... I already know that cutting out carbs is a great way to lower blood sugar and keep it pretty steady. It's the carbs that cause the massive swings. That's why my answer was more... hey, what about considering just keto... because I read about diabetes in all of my keto books. As ibob said, LOTS of information out there about that.However, now that I have read this conversation and thought about it some more -- I realize that your brother may very well (?) already be on a high-carb diet. In that case, I absolutely agree that CBL or CN could be a better move for him. Having elevated insulin levels all.the.time is not good for anyone. Being able to use less insulin sounds like a win to me. He would just have to be very observant of how his body reacts when the carbs are added in -- I would think especially in a CN situation, due to physiological insulin resistance which can occur with low-carb diets (and I believe that is what has happened with me, after going ketogenic for a long period and then re-introducing CNs):"One caveat here is that very low-carb diets will produce elevated fasting blood glucose levels. Why? Because low-carb diets induce insulin resistance. Restricting carbohydrates produces a natural drop in insulin levels, which in turn activates hormone sensitive lipase. Fat tissue is then broken down, and non-esterified fatty acids (a.k.a. “free fatty acids” or NEFA) are released into the bloodstream. These NEFA are taken up by the muscles, which use them as fuel. And since the muscle’s needs for fuel has been met, it decreases sensitivity to insulin. You can read more about this at Hyperlipid.So, if you eat a low-carb diet and have borderline high FBG (i.e. 90-105), it may not be cause for concern. Your post-meal blood sugars and A1c levels are more important."Taken from:http://chriskresser.com/when-your-%E2%80%9Cnormal%E2%80%9D-blood-sugar-isn%E2%80%99t-normal-part-2Here is the Hyperlipid post about physiological insulin resistance:http://high-fat-nutrition.blogspot.com/2007/10/physiological-insulin-resistance.html
I don't think carb nite would be a good idea for him since he does a ton of heavy resistance training several times a week. I am really concerned about the first half of the day while CBL. I remember Kiefer saying that metabolically, diabetics have a completely different hormonal pattern (Insulin resistant in morning and becoming more insulin sensitive as the day progresses), but not sure if that is more for Type 2 diabetics or Type 1..or both>?? If that's the case, I wonder if it would be better to do the complete opposite of CBL, what I mean by that is train in the morning then carb load the first half of the day and really limit/eliminate the carb intake in the afternoon/evening. Does that make sense to anyone?
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