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February 16, 2015 at 10:00 pm #230902
Rob HaasGuestSame here as what Tex said, sometimes backloading night before AM training but this is because I train evenings normally except on Sunday's which is AM training and there are two days off between my last PM training and my AM training.Sometimes I will not backload per say, but will have some carbs, like a sweet potato or some rice with my evening meal. really depends on my activity level prior to training and if I feel fully recovered and anxious for the next days training.IMO I would try no backloading the night before and see if you can get through the AM training entirely without running out of steam.Again, careful experimentation and tracking progress is going to come into play.Finally yes, on my AM training days it's ULC until evening.
February 16, 2015 at 10:07 pm #230903
Rob HaasGuestDo you recommend cycling the calorie intake on training days/non-training days? (My training days are at about maintenance, and if I do maintenance on ULC days I'd need to get like 150+ grams of fat)
I do cycle calories if needed. Again, this is going to take some experimentation.If I'm deadlifting or squatting, I'm really hungry the following day so I will eat more protein & fats but careful not to over do it.IMO working bigger muscle groups fires off more GH and IGF1 so you should get an opportunity for growth if fed properly and timed right with minimal fat gain.You can't build something from nothing.
February 17, 2015 at 4:48 am #230904
Makoto TomizawaParticipantI do every once in a while. I backload my carbs that evening still after an AM training session, and that is what the suggestions are today. You can backload the night prior, but that is more performance oriented.
Great, thank you for the information, sir! Considering I'm not looking to become a powerlifter or anything at this point (or ever... lol), I'll just stick to AM training with backloads in the evening. This also prevents me from having have to tweak all my schedules throughout the day and night.
IMO I would try no backloading the night before and see if you can get through the AM training entirely without running out of steam.
I haven't noticed any lack of performance by not backloading the night prior (when I was previously on CBL for a little bit). And like I said, I'm hesitant about backloading on a non-training day, so this actually works out well and I feel better too.
Do you recommend cycling the calorie intake on training days/non-training days? (My training days are at about maintenance, and if I do maintenance on ULC days I'd need to get like 150+ grams of fat)
I do cycle calories if needed. Again, this is going to take some experimentation.If I'm deadlifting or squatting, I'm really hungry the following day so I will eat more protein & fats but careful not to over do it.IMO working bigger muscle groups fires off more GH and IGF1 so you should get an opportunity for growth if fed properly and timed right with minimal fat gain.You can't build something from nothing.
Despite I have no trouble getting the same amount of calories from just protein and fats, I think I'm going to start with keeping off-day calories a little lower than maintenance/training day (basically doing kind of a Lean Gains approach, just with CBL diet plan) and see how that goes. In theory, I feel like it would work well but who knows, like you said, it takes careful tracking and experimentation and that's what I'll be doing.I also love what you said (in bold). Gotta feed the body to recovery/muscle buildingĀ ;D
Training Log: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1vuwHRdBaPVILxxLhXly_N1Ys66Hcwk4j-bM7nvKSLrI/edit?usp=sharing
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