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July 15, 2012 at 5:37 am #2710
sckielyParticipantI am a big fan of Dan John. He has such a long history in the fitness industry and he writes really well. His partnerships with Pavel at Dragondoor.com have been great.However he has this other range of products that are stand alone from his RKC works. His book "never let go" was great and I still re-read it regularly. I am about to start his bulking program from "Mass Made Simple" it is $10 in kindle format and after reading it I thought I just had to give it a go!I will however be using CBL as the nutrition protocol, instead of Dan's setup. His nutrition ideas were basically what I used to prepare for my bodybuilding comp 5 years back, so I know it works for adding lean mass but I know CBL is much effective.I have been doing a range of different things lately and just need a program to follow. This is only 6 weeks and will hopefully bring some good results?
July 15, 2012 at 2:32 pm #63380
zewskiMemberGood luck! You have a great handle on the CBL/CNS thing so I'm sure you'll see great results!
July 15, 2012 at 3:05 pm #63381
Richard SchmittModeratorOh yeah good luck! Looking forward to seeing how it will turn outSent from my iPod touch using Tapatalk
July 20, 2012 at 10:10 pm #63382
Bmb013ParticipantI am starting Mass Made Simple with CBL Monday at the end of my prep phase. Do you plan on back loading 7 days a week?
July 20, 2012 at 10:49 pm #63383
TheDanParticipantGood luck man, it would be good to hear if things go well to know there are options out there worth trying just to change up training protocols once in a while.
July 22, 2012 at 9:15 am #63384
TallywhackerGuestI done this program a while back and must say it will put hair on your chest. It's a great program in many ways. The intensity will give some a shock. Especially those who have been on 'auto pilot' with regards to working out.
July 27, 2012 at 9:49 pm #63385
sckielyParticipantI done this program a while back and must say it will put hair on your chest. It's a great program in many ways. The intensity will give some a shock. Especially those who have been on 'auto pilot' with regards to working out.
+1The program only has you training 5 days a fortnight so I will be backloading only on training days to start and adjust depending on how I am feeling recovering etc?
July 27, 2012 at 10:22 pm #63386
RickGuestCan you explain the program a bit and your “Keys” to success with you and your clients use of CBL. Thanks
July 28, 2012 at 1:19 am #63387
sckielyParticipantThe program is only $10 in kindle format at amazon. As for my "keys" to success it really depends on my clients and their goals.The main points I focus on is keeping the ULC portion of the day super simple so bacon and steak with a fibrous veg for lunch protein shake 30mins before training and then a shake with carbs after training (all of my clients train really early or in the afternoon!)Then during CBL Time (5pm onwards) I have them start with just a few options, so 3-4 different carb heavy foods and add to this as necessary.The 4 choices I suggest they start with are white rice, potato, sweet potato and gluten free baked desserts.Once they start seeing results it is then easier to see if they eat other stuff if it is working or not
July 28, 2012 at 4:44 am #63388
RickGuestI am curious on your thoughts on the Shockwave Protocol. My main goal is losing body fat.
July 28, 2012 at 7:44 am #63389
sckielyParticipantShockwave works, it is a very solid program and I like the plan. It has lots of aspects that are most important to get results.It makes you work heavy, it stimulates and builds, doesn't tear you down and it's focus is on the big movements with enough accessory work. People seem to think that fat loss means you have to train differently to other goals? This is so far from the truth. You want to stimulate as much muscle as possible regardless of the goal as this assists in the process of keeping that muscle.If fat loss is your goal then SW will work great as will nearly any sensible training protocol as it is nutrition that drives fat loss not training. So pick either CNS or CBL and let them manage your fat loss. SW is specifically aimed to work with either to achieve fat loss!Kiefer knows his stuff and there are heaps of people achieving great results using SW and either protocol!
July 28, 2012 at 12:04 pm #63390
Richard SchmittModeratorI really second the SW. Doing it without making any modifications to it, you will see results. Going into my 3rd week and I'm enjoying the trip
July 28, 2012 at 2:48 pm #63391
TheDanParticipantI have two clients doing shockwave with CBL and they are both getting great results. Assessing their carb tolerances is literally the hardest thing I have to do for them but at the same time is still super easy. Well.. That and convincing them that the diet works after years of bullshit nutrition has been crammed in their brains.
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