Ultra Low Carb = sluggish Healing process?

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    Chuck
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    Well I have been asking this question for some time, and have been documenting the effects of an Ultra Low Carb diet (CNS) AND how it pertains to us healing. Seems to me when you get a cut, scrap, or bruise you will notice the healing process taking longer and more drawn out when using the CNS; but when running the carb back loading system, you heal quicker and more effectively, so obviously it’s the influx of food, or is it?Does anybody else have similar issues? Do you think the central nervous system is also taking longer to heal from heavy lifting?Also which low carb foods heal the Central Nervous system?

    #68060

    bbuchan
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    I am also interested in this as I will likely be having a tonsilectomy in the next couple weeks, which I hear is extremely painful as an adult.  With this on the horizon I have been comtemplating my diet options during this time because the healing process is supposed to be about two weeks with no physical activity.  I know I might be in so much pain that I won't want to stick to a diet but I'm gonna try.  I was considering going all CNS during this time to avoid fat gain from carb backloads without training.  Anyone have any suggestions?

    #68061

    Big_R
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    Well I have been asking this question for some time, and have been documenting the effects of an Ultra Low Carb diet (CNS) AND how it pertains to us healing. Seems to me when you get a cut, scrap, or bruise you will notice the healing process taking longer and more drawn out when using the CNS; but when running the carb back loading system, you heal quicker and more effectively, so obviously it’s the influx of food, or is it?Does anybody else have similar issues? Do you think the central nervous system is also taking longer to heal from heavy lifting?Also which low carb foods heal the Central Nervous system?

    If you doing CNS your carbohydrate intake is absent for a number of days... that being said it would be a wise choice to reduce the amount of volume your doing during your training and focus on INTENSITY.Shockwave Protocol, for instance, is not a high-volume workout (which is what most ppl should be doing anyway, less volume) - Your goal on CNS should primarily be fat-loss, at least until you get somewhere ridiculous like 8%.  I would suggest lowering the volume and increasing the quality/intensity of the work you ARE performing so you don't overtrain.... it's already difficult lifting heavy on No-Carb, give your CNS a break  This is just what i've learned over the years..... i don't have a Master's in Exercise Physiology so take it with a grain of salt. 

    #68062

    mereditharb
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    My take is that vitamin C intake/recycling is critical to this process. When you go vlc and take out many high C foods pluslimit your vit c recycling ability you have impaired healing ability. Thus, I supplement with 3 grams of vit C a day when eliminating carbs. Paul Jaminet talks about this a bit. http://perfecthealthdiet.com/category/zero-carb-dangers/

    #68063

    Isaac
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    Agreed- Vit C. Also a shitton of Glutamine can work wonders.But overall I agree with you. Kiefer says to expect lower energy in the gym when Carb-depleted, and the whole point of CBL is to carb up to fuel the next workout, so I'd have to assume with no carbs in your system you have less 'oomph' and less to recover with. I've certainly been more sore than usual from workouts (even the short Shockwave ones) since going ULC.It would make sense the same would apply to injuries or medical procedures. After all, the body doesn't KNOW that working out is on purpose. All it knows is that it feels like it got the shit kicked out of it and now it has to rebuild.Someone once told me there's not a whole lot of difference between a brutal workout and a moderately intense car accident to the body, and to treat recovery with similar seriousness.

    #68064

    raisethebarbell
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    I am healing slower too, or just not as fast as I was on a typical American diet.Just gonna throw this out there from what I think may be going on with me, no studys or evidence available.Because a keto diet can be much less inflamatory, the immune system can down regulate. When healing needs to occur, the immune system must ramp up for a day or so and then get the job done. Things like gluten may have been keeping the immune system revved up constantly, and fixing healing issues more quickly because it doesn't have to ramp up. I would rather heal a little slower than have a chronically elevated immune process so I am not sure this is a bad thing. Probably why I have more energy and don't need as much sleep.Very interesting topic, hope to hear some more opinions.

    #68065

    plaquex
    Member

    Avoid training to muscle failure. Your CNS will thank you.I also wouldn't recommend any mega-dosing with Vitamin C even though it's water soluble.

    #68066

    Big_R
    Participant

    Avoid training to muscle failure. Your CNS will thank you.    +1I also wouldn't recommend any mega-dosing with Vitamin C even though it's water soluble.  +2

    #68067

    plaquex
    Member

    When talking about training to muscle failure… This might be interesting for one or two:http://suppversity.blogspot.de/2012/07/to-fail-or-not-to-fail-5x10-or-10x5.html

    #68068

    Spuey
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    My take is that vitamin C intake/recycling is critical to this process. When you go vlc and take out many high C foods pluslimit your vit c recycling ability you have impaired healing ability. Thus, I supplement with 3 grams of vit C a day when eliminating carbs. Paul Jaminet talks about this a bit. http://perfecthealthdiet.com/category/zero-carb-dangers/

    Thanks for that article, really good information especially since I got tested with really high LDL levels...

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