Can I do CBL?

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    Thrakier
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    Hi there,I'm working out for about 2,5 years now with not too much success.Height: 5,8Weight: around 170 pounds (max was around 180 to 190, when I started I was at 140)age: 29 yearsWell, we don't need to talk much about genetics here I guess, I'm not very qualified for BB but still I improved quite a bit from my starting form and I feel better and want to keep going, I guess that's the important part here. My problem is that I always had a more or less bad form. When I started I was way above 20% body fatt although my weight was very low. The very definition of skinnyfat, very skinny and very fat. I'm guessing I'm currently around 15% percent body fat, you can see the upper abs quite good but there is still a lot of fat on the hips. 🙁Would CBL suited for me to get a better form overall without dieting too hard and getting too thin, loosing too much strenght? What would you guys suggest me? I'm experienced with AD and also with healthy normal food diet (brown rice etc.). Both worked to a certain extent, but I never was below 15% so far I guess. I like the concept of CBL and it fit's my daily routines pretty good.Looking forward to your opionions, thanks a lot guys!

    #69061

    Zach516
    Member

    Yeah, sounds like it would work really good for your case as long as you could workout with the necessary intensity.

    #69062

    Thrakier
    Guest

    Well, it's pretty hard to define “intensity”, isn't it? I'm always trying my best for sure. Problem is, that I'm currently hurt a lot with a tennis elbow and knee problems. So all I can do right now is bench press (and similar exercises) and dips. Only chest and shoulders. No legs, almost no back. Rather frustrating.

    #69063

    imp
    Guest

    So all I can do right now is bench press (and similar exercises) and dips. Only chest and shoulders. No legs, almost no back. Rather frustrating.

    Yikes

    #69064

    Thrakier
    Guest

    Yeah, it's horrilbe. It's the lower end of my quaddriceps which is somewhat damaged and also some muscles in my left forearm I guess. All movement related to legs or “pulling” and involving the biceps muscle are hurting me. Triceps is fine.

    #69065

    Zach516
    Member

    I dont think it would be optimal because of your injuries. I think that you should focus on getting better and recovering. CBL with only bench and a few other exercises would not be optimal. You need to work the entire body from my understanding.

    #69066

    Brandon D Christ
    Participant

    Hi there,I'm working out for about 2,5 years now with not too much success.Height: 5,8Weight: around 170 pounds (max was around 180 to 190, when I started I was at 140)age: 29 yearsWell, we don't need to talk much about genetics here I guess, I'm not very qualified for BB but still I improved quite a bit from my starting form and I feel better and want to keep going, I guess that's the important part here. My problem is that I always had a more or less bad form. When I started I was way above 20% body fatt although my weight was very low. The very definition of skinnyfat, very skinny and very fat. I'm guessing I'm currently around 15% percent body fat, you can see the upper abs quite good but there is still a lot of fat on the hips. 🙁Would CBL suited for me to get a better form overall without dieting too hard and getting too thin, loosing too much strenght? What would you guys suggest me? I'm experienced with AD and also with healthy normal food diet (brown rice etc.). Both worked to a certain extent, but I never was below 15% so far I guess. I like the concept of CBL and it fit's my daily routines pretty good.Looking forward to your opionions, thanks a lot guys!

    CBL is designed exactly for people like you.  I would highly reccomend Shockwave or DH Heavy Duty for training.

    #69067

    Thrakier
    Guest

    Thanks, sounds good. When I'm recovered I wanted to do an alternating whole body plan three times a week. I never heard of the training methods you mentioned. Could you provide me with a link? Thanks a lot!

    #69068

    Brandon D Christ
    Participant

    Thanks, sounds good. When I'm recovered I wanted to do an alternating whole body plan three times a week. I never heard of the training methods you mentioned. Could you provide me with a link? Thanks a lot!

    I would not reccomend a total body routine.  If you have been doing this I think this woul explain your lack orf success.  Here are the two routines I reccomended.  Both are designed by Kiefer:http://www.dangerouslyhardcore.com/1226/heavy-duty-cbl/http://shockwaveprotocol.com/

    #69069

    Thrakier
    Guest

    Thanks. Well, in my training time I tried different workout systems so I wouldn't blame my lack of success on that. I thought about a total body routine again because I had to pause because of the injuries…

    #69070

    Gl;itch.e
    Member

    Well, it's pretty hard to define "intensity", isn't it? I'm always trying my best for sure. Problem is, that I'm currently hurt a lot with a tennis elbow and knee problems. So all I can do right now is bench press (and similar exercises) and dips. Only chest and shoulders. No legs, almost no back. Rather frustrating.

    Thrakier. Look into Trigger Point Massage. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trigger_pointhttp://www.triggerpoints.net/forearm-and-hand.htmhttp://www.triggerpoints.net/hip-thigh-knee.htmFind your area of pain there and look to see what muscles could be involved. Learn how to massage out trigger points. Its invalueable to learn where your problem areas are, and keep on top of them for tissue quality/health. My biggest problem areas are Trapezius Trigger Points (headaches/shitty bench performance) Calves (Cramping during seated calf work/Poor blood flow) Ext Rotators (Front of Shoulder pain/shitty bench performance) Biceps (Shoulder pain/shitty bench performance) Ive had much success with self care of trigger points. Had bad back pain for ages and had trouble squatting as a result. Trigger point massage to  the glutes basically cured me of it. Likewise I can benchpress without pain most of the time if I maintain the tissue quality of the aforementioned muscles. Give it a try. You might be surprised how well it works

    #69071

    Thrakier
    Guest

    Thanks a lot, I'll look into it. I'm not new to that concept though and I'm currently with an physio to help me. I hope it'll get better soon, but especially that tennis elbow is just a pain in the ass. I'm using a foam roller for my back as well.One more question regarding CBL to loose some stubborn fat. On training day when I do the backload, is it ok to consume only 200 to 250gr carbs and count calories so that I'm not above the calories my body needed for that day?

    #69072

    Lasse Elsbak
    Participant

    One more question regarding CBL to loose some stubborn fat. On training day when I do the backload, is it ok to consume only 200 to 250gr carbs and count calories so that I'm not above the calories my body needed for that day?

    How do you know how many calories your body needs for that day?

    #69073

    Thrakier
    Guest

    I'm using a bodybugg which is about 90% accurat. For example, yesterday I had a lazy overall day with just one hour chest workout. I used about 2700 calories and I ate as much. In my backload I ate about 200 to 250 carbs. I just started with my bodybugg so I have to see how it works out. I'm planning on a 300 calories deficit on the ULC days and maybe just a little deficit or no deficit on training days.

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