Might be the powder. Is it definately a Whey Isolate? How does it mix in water? If it mixes well in water then you can pre-mix it with a little bit of water then add to the coffee after. Adjust the amount of water in coffee to accomodate obviously. OR...You can simply have a normal coffee with coconut oil/mct and have a small shake on the side.

Thanks Gl;itch.e, it's definitely a Whey Isolate that mixes very well in water.I mix 2/3 scoop so I get my 10g of whey (there are other aminos in the blend too) and I pick up some leucine from the powder too, though I think having the coffee separately with the coconut oil and the shake on the side may be a better way to go. Picking up my bench press and extra weights today so I'll smash in a session tonight.For the PWO shake I'm taking a muscle recovery blend that gives me 20g WPI, assorted electrolytes and ~70g carbs, along with an extra scoop of my high-concentrated WPI to bring it back up to 40g, and give me ~5g leucine. I'm adding 5g creatine to this mixture as well to load the body, is this going to be detrimental for the re-feed? Even after the PWO shake I'm not getting near 200g carbs so the re-feeds are small for the moment so the fat loss should still be accelerated. Your thoughts?

Sounds good man. Just a question about that Whey Iso you have though. Is the 10g of protein a total including the added aminos or are they extra on top of that? The reason being some aminos can be quite insulinotrophic and thats not what you want in the AM Accelerator. If it puts you above 10g TOTAL protein/aminos then Id advise against it. If possible buy a Whey Iso without any additional aminos next time. You may want to buy some leucine seperate to add to it for your PWO shakes and meals though.

Sorry I glanced over the amino profile before and thus read them incorrectly, there's far less than 5g of leucine, try just over a gram. The amino profile is per 100g of powder so they should be 10% of the approximate values, so for 10g of powder I'm getting ~8.7g of WPI, ~0.13g fats, ~0.22g carbs, a minute amount of sodium and the rest in aminos so it doesn't put me over the 10g threshold. Next time round I'll be grabbing a WPI without any aminos and just adding in the particulars as I need them, what are the big insulinotropic aminos that I need to look out for? This is precisely why I'm not touching BCAAs yet aside from leucine. 🙂Lucky PF ship worldwide, most Australian supplement sites don't have their own protein labs to blend ingredients.

I think a lot of the aminos are. It just comes down to quantity really. Leucine in the quantities usually ingested is the main one I believe.

Let the coffee cool for a minute or two before adding the whey.

Will do. Got some more protein coming (should be here today or the start of next week) so I'll be making the blends that I need. Got vanilla flavour throughout this time round so it shouldn't be too bad once I add it into the coffee. Should I use the Blend D in the A.M. shake or just stick with the whey isolate?

yeah mate happened to me too, mine wpi went into hard rubber like lumps,now i just mix the protein in with cold water first then pour however much coffee in and shake it all up, not the greatest taste but no biggy

Sweetener tablets should be used, not the powder that has filler-sugar (maltodextrin)

Hi everyone,I've just started CBL and just a heads-up, I'm a total newbie so I may have a bunch of questions so I'll try and keep them all to one or two posts. I'm 100kg (220lbs) at ~25% body fat and I've switched over from the first phase of the Dukan diet so I stuck with protein and veg for the first 10 days already. I read through both CBL and CNS and whilst CNS offers the fat-burning, I've opted for CBL (SA) as I train regularly and I'm stepping it up to 4 days a week, and I'm picking up weights and a bench today to keep up the progress home as well. I train in To-Shin Do ninjutsu and MMA, and I'm running through the Shockwave protocols as much as I can too.Now that the background is out of the way, I have a couple of questions about the A.M. Accelerator Shake. I fudged it this morning and I'm not sure if it was because I used stevia sweetener tablets rather than a powder, but some of my shake curdled.    - I dissolved 2 heaped teaspoons of coffee in 500ml boiling water, added the sweetener, then my WPI       formula (picked it up before I found out about Blend D).    - I don't know at this point whether the sweetener tablets simply didn't dissolve, or if the whey powder      curdled. Are most people drinking the shakes hot or are you using cold water instead?    - If it was the sweetener I guess I can live without it, I'd much prefer to drop the excess fat mass.Am I missing something with the shake here or am I just not mixing it properly? Any advice here would be greatly appreciated, I'm not going to be trapped in the cycle of revolutionary diets and after reading through both the eBooks I can see that Kiefer knows what he's doing.Thanks in advance,- Rio

1.  You need to add a fat (prefferably coconut oil or MCT oil, but cream or butter is ok).  If you don't add fat, don't add protein.  You could destroy the fat burning enviroment in the morning with a protein only shake.2.  Use WPI, Blend D is obsolete.  I believe Blend D has hydrosolates in it, which would spike insulin.3.  Make the coffee, let it cool to a drinkable temperature, then add the other ingredients.