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August 27, 2012 at 6:01 pm #3607
guitarjonParticipantI'm really trying to get into the habit of eating bigger meals. It's about 7pm right now, I'll go to bed at around midnight. So far today I've had one meal at 2pm. It added up to about 67g protein, 6g carbs and probably about 60g fat. I know it's not quite right but I'm getting there. I weigh 170lbs atm so I'm shooting obviously for 170g protein and the same for fat. I can't decide whether to have one big meal at around 7:30 or 8pm (which would be well over 1000 calories) or split it into 2 meals. The problem, obviously with eating 2 meals is that I have to wait longer tomorrow morning to break my fast. The foods I've got to choose from are:80/20 beefbacon strips-not streaky so they have twice as much protein as they do fatcheeseavocadoeggsspinachAll of this stuff combined would make a tasty meal but that's an awful lot of stuff to eat at once. Anyone have any suggestions?
August 27, 2012 at 6:11 pm #77228
David MargittaiParticipantPersonally, I come from an IF background, so on ULC days I typically only eat 2 meals. I'll break my fast with some coffee + 1 tbsp of coconut oil at about the 12 hour mark, then I'll have my first actual meal a few hours later (typically happens around 3pm). I generally take in about 70g of protein and 60g of fats in this meal (I weigh 140lbs -- shooting for 150ish), so I stand around 70p/75f at that point. Then around 9ish, I'll make myself a really big meal hovering around 80-90g of protein and fat, enjoy eating it slowly, call it a day, and get to bed about an hour later.Both my meals are pretty similar -- I typically make myself some sort of massive ommelette. The afternoon meal tends to be made with something like relatively lean turkey or chicken breast, eggs, additional egg whites, fatty bacon, and cheese. The night time meal is typically pretty much the same, except I make it bigger/fattier and use 80/20 beef instead of turkey/chicken. I usually end up with somewhere between 160-180g of protein:fat by the end of the day.Hope this helps!
August 27, 2012 at 6:17 pm #77229
guitarjonParticipantI just feel like it's so late in the day to be having so much fat and protein at once, which is ridiculous considering the amount of carbs I'm willing to stuff my face with during a backload. I'm still trying to get the hang of it and I've got like another 100+ grams of both protein and fat to reach my targets for the day and it's nearly 7:30.
August 27, 2012 at 6:20 pm #77230
guitarjonParticipantPersonally, I come from an IF background, so on ULC days I typically only eat 2 meals. I'll break my fast with some coffee + 1 tbsp of coconut oil at about the 12 hour mark, then I'll have my first actual meal a few hours later (typically happens around 3pm). I generally take in about 70g of protein and 60g of fats in this meal (I weigh 140lbs -- shooting for 150ish), so I stand around 70p/75f at that point. Then around 9ish, I'll make myself a really big meal hovering around 80-90g of protein and fat, enjoy eating it slowly, call it a day, and get to bed about an hour later.Both my meals are pretty similar -- I typically make myself some sort of massive ommelette. The afternoon meal tends to be made with something like relatively lean turkey or chicken breast, eggs, additional egg whites, fatty bacon, and cheese. The night time meal is typically pretty much the same, except I make it bigger/fattier and use 80/20 beef instead of turkey/chicken. I usually end up with somewhere between 160-180g of protein:fat by the end of the day.Hope this helps!
That meal about an hour before you go to bed must end up being 1000+ calories, right?
August 27, 2012 at 6:24 pm #77231
David MargittaiParticipantHahaha. I know what you mean, but I have to eat that late because if I try pushing that meal earlier in the evening, I will be hungry again before bed and I would have to fight myself to not eat anything else.I get my final 80-90g of protein/fat around 9-9:30 at night (and oh yes, it's well over 1000kcal) and I don't seem wake up with any ill effects. I also think it actually helps me get to sleep a little easier having some substance in my stomach.Don't stress so much over it. Just play around with things and you'll figure out how you like it and what makes you feel the best. You'll get the hang of it, man
August 27, 2012 at 6:28 pm #77232
guitarjonParticipantHahaha. I know what you mean, but I have to eat that late because if I try pushing that meal earlier in the evening, I will be hungry again before bed and I would have to fight myself to not eat anything else.I get my final 80-90g of protein/fat around 9-9:30 at night (and oh yes, it's well over 1000kcal) and I don't seem wake up with any ill effects. I also think it actually helps me get to sleep a little easier having some substance in my stomach.Don't stress so much over it. Just play around with things and you'll figure out how you like it and what makes you feel the best. You'll get the hang of it, man
Yeah I'm trying for sure. I'm just gonna end up having some bacon and avocado cheeseburgers with a couple eggs and some spinach. It'll be delicious I'm sure. It's just a mental thing.
August 27, 2012 at 6:36 pm #77233
David MargittaiParticipantYeah I'm trying for sure. I'm just gonna end up having some bacon and avocado cheeseburgers with a couple eggs and some spinach. It'll be delicious I'm sure. It's just a mental thing.
I feel you. Coming from low-carb and IF for a long time, CBL pretty much goes against everything I had accustomed my body and (more importantly) my mind to. Habits and mindsets are tough to break, but if you give it a shot and do it right, I think you'll be happy when you find that Kiefer's ideas do produce some pretty rewarding results.
August 27, 2012 at 6:48 pm #77234
guitarjonParticipantYeah I'm trying for sure. I'm just gonna end up having some bacon and avocado cheeseburgers with a couple eggs and some spinach. It'll be delicious I'm sure. It's just a mental thing.
I feel you. Coming from low-carb and IF for a long time, CBL pretty much goes against everything I had accustomed my body and (more importantly) my mind to. Habits and mindsets are tough to break, but if you give it a shot and do it right, I think you'll be happy when you find that Kiefer's ideas do produce some pretty rewarding results.
I definitely think I'll get great results. I should have known better than to think I would be able to make such a big transition seemlessly...seemlesll...seemlesly - that's a stupid word to spell. I'm really getting into it though.
August 27, 2012 at 6:54 pm #77235
David MargittaiParticipantYeah I'm trying for sure. I'm just gonna end up having some bacon and avocado cheeseburgers with a couple eggs and some spinach. It'll be delicious I'm sure. It's just a mental thing.
I feel you. Coming from low-carb and IF for a long time, CBL pretty much goes against everything I had accustomed my body and (more importantly) my mind to. Habits and mindsets are tough to break, but if you give it a shot and do it right, I think you'll be happy when you find that Kiefer's ideas do produce some pretty rewarding results.
I definitely think I'll get great results. I should have known better than to think I would be able to make such a big transition seemlessly...seemlesll...seemlesly - that's a stupid word to spell. I'm really getting into it though.
Get into it and kick it in it's ass! Keep us up to date with your progress, man, I'll definitely be keeping an eye out!
August 27, 2012 at 7:22 pm #77236
guitarjonParticipantYeah I'm trying for sure. I'm just gonna end up having some bacon and avocado cheeseburgers with a couple eggs and some spinach. It'll be delicious I'm sure. It's just a mental thing.
I feel you. Coming from low-carb and IF for a long time, CBL pretty much goes against everything I had accustomed my body and (more importantly) my mind to. Habits and mindsets are tough to break, but if you give it a shot and do it right, I think you'll be happy when you find that Kiefer's ideas do produce some pretty rewarding results.
I definitely think I'll get great results. I should have known better than to think I would be able to make such a big transition seemlessly...seemlesll...seemlesly - that's a stupid word to spell. I'm really getting into it though.
Get into it and kick it in it's ass! Keep us up to date with your progress, man, I'll definitely be keeping an eye out!
I'm gonna destroy it! I'm going to start an actual log this week too so once I get back in the gym next week I think I'll have myself sorted out a bit better. There's lots of helpful feedback on this sight so I'm looking forward to seeing what I get out of that.
August 27, 2012 at 7:35 pm #77237
Big_RParticipantI'm really trying to get into the habit of eating bigger meals. It's about 7pm right now, I'll go to bed at around midnight. So far today I've had one meal at 2pm. It added up to about 67g protein, 6g carbs and probably about 60g fat. I know it's not quite right but I'm getting there. I weigh 170lbs atm so I'm shooting obviously for 170g protein and the same for fat. I can't decide whether to have one big meal at around 7:30 or 8pm (which would be well over 1000 calories) or split it into 2 meals. The problem, obviously with eating 2 meals is that I have to wait longer tomorrow morning to break my fast. The foods I've got to choose from are:80/20 beefbacon strips-not streaky so they have twice as much protein as they do fatcheeseavocadoeggsspinachAll of this stuff combined would make a tasty meal but that's an awful lot of stuff to eat at once. Anyone have any suggestions?
If you are doing CBL you can also try the intra/post workout shake cocktail... it's shown me some great results. Basically you mix protein and carb powder (i prefer dextrose) and sip on it during and after the workout. I normally do about 70g protein and between 180-240carb shakes... if you are 170 Lbs you prob benefit from 50g protein with 120-150 carbs of dex powder and then wait an hour or two and just have 1 meal. cheers
August 27, 2012 at 8:28 pm #77238
pshannonMemberI'm really trying to get into the habit of eating bigger meals. It's about 7pm right now, I'll go to bed at around midnight. So far today I've had one meal at 2pm. It added up to about 67g protein, 6g carbs and probably about 60g fat. I know it's not quite right but I'm getting there. I weigh 170lbs atm so I'm shooting obviously for 170g protein and the same for fat. I can't decide whether to have one big meal at around 7:30 or 8pm (which would be well over 1000 calories) or split it into 2 meals. The problem, obviously with eating 2 meals is that I have to wait longer tomorrow morning to break my fast. The foods I've got to choose from are:80/20 beefbacon strips-not streaky so they have twice as much protein as they do fatcheeseavocadoeggsspinachAll of this stuff combined would make a tasty meal but that's an awful lot of stuff to eat at once. Anyone have any suggestions?
If you are doing CBL you can also try the intra/post workout shake cocktail... it's shown me some great results. Basically you mix protein and carb powder (i prefer dextrose) and sip on it during and after the workout. I normally do about 70g protein and between 180-240carb shakes... if you are 170 Lbs you prob benefit from 50g protein with 120-150 carbs of dex powder and then wait an hour or two and just have 1 meal. cheers
Holy shit dude. THATS A LOT OF CARBS! I thought i took a lot intra workout at 90g
August 27, 2012 at 9:44 pm #77239
Big_RParticipantLOL hey, i'm going for str8 mass… i think intra is one of (if not) the best times to soak up the carbs. After listening to That meadows podcast. i found that i get REALLY bloated intra/pwo if i have too much dextrose so i built-up to this because it feels right..
August 27, 2012 at 11:15 pm #77240
pshannonMemberLOL hey, i'm going for str8 mass... i think intra is one of (if not) the best times to soak up the carbs. After listening to That meadows podcast. i found that i get REALLY bloated intra/pwo if i have too much dextrose so i built-up to this because it feels right..
I was never a huge intra guy, but it makes the most sense. From working the Meadows I don't think I will ever go back to having a PWO shake again. Your body is craving the protein/carbs when your breaking down the muscle during the workout! If you got done just doing a massive set of heavy squats but still have a bunch of accessory work, wouldnt you want to start fueling the muscles you just killed. makes sense to me Even if I try a cut, Ill still have the Intra.
August 28, 2012 at 2:00 pm #77241
Big_RParticipantLOL hey, i'm going for str8 mass... i think intra is one of (if not) the best times to soak up the carbs. After listening to That meadows podcast. i found that i get REALLY bloated intra/pwo if i have too much dextrose so i built-up to this because it feels right..
I was never a huge intra guy, but it makes the most sense. From working the Meadows I don't think I will ever go back to having a PWO shake again. Your body is craving the protein/carbs when your breaking down the muscle during the workout! If you got done just doing a massive set of heavy squats but still have a bunch of accessory work, wouldnt you want to start fueling the muscles you just killed. makes sense to me Even if I try a cut, Ill still have the Intra.
i agree with you 100% - i love the way it makes me feel. I don't get so burnt out either mid-way through
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