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September 27, 2012 at 7:00 am #4257
CainoParticipantSo during prep phase and ULC days ratio is 1:1 say my protein at the end of the day is 180grams (very easy to do) and my fat is sitting at 120grams after my last meal, is it nesacery to add fats e.g cream, mct, oils etc to even it to the 1:1 ratio, my thinking is just adding fats just for the sake of it WILL cause more increase in a “spill over” or the dredded word “gaining fat” because weather we focus on calories or not, that is alot of extra calories we are adding in!! and yes i know how easy it is to add fats, but this is just for instance and has happened a couple days due to enjoying some breast lol
September 27, 2012 at 7:54 am #85497
Craig jonesParticipantTry keep the individual meals 1:1 I couldn't imagine trying to sup back some butter before bed lol yuckKeeping the meals equal just stems any insulin release from the foods. You won't get spill over from fat, that's a term used for access carbs as far as I know. 🙂
September 27, 2012 at 8:44 am #85498
CainoParticipantTry keep the individual meals 1:1 I couldn't imagine trying to sup back some butter before bed lol yuckKeeping the meals equal just stems any insulin release from the foods. You won't get spill over from fat, that's a term used for access carbs as far as I know. 🙂
i hear you barking big dog, its yeah just the last few days been a wee bit hard to balance the fat and protein! so do i bang more down at the end of the day or is that plain silly? and also we should shoot for more fat at the end of the day? correct? oh such dilemmas in life lolalso, while where on the subject of fats, really what are the bad fats, because there is some! im guessing some plant oils yes?
September 27, 2012 at 9:18 am #85499
Craig jonesParticipantJust try to avoid plant fats where possible. Me, I don't have any. Except maybe on a carbnite hidden in some food.In carb backloading you'll have most of your fat first part of the day keeping your meals 1:1. After workouts or in evening keep fat pretty low until later in the night. For example maybe first couple of meals sensible then maybe have a pizza or some donuts ect.Ulc days keep them as close to equal as possible all day.
September 27, 2012 at 9:58 am #85500
CainoParticipantJust try to avoid plant fats where possible. Me, I don't have any. Except maybe on a carbnite hidden in some food.In carb backloading you'll have most of your fat first part of the day keeping your meals 1:1. After workouts or in evening keep fat pretty low until later in the night. For example maybe first couple of meals sensible then maybe have a pizza or some donuts ect.Ulc days keep them as close to equal as possible all day.
as i read this im sipping on a coffee with double cream as i am trying to evem out my portions lol
September 27, 2012 at 1:27 pm #85501
tzanghiParticipantJust try to avoid plant fats where possible. Me, I don't have any. Except maybe on a carbnite hidden in some food.In carb backloading you'll have most of your fat first part of the day keeping your meals 1:1. After workouts or in evening keep fat pretty low until later in the night. For example maybe first couple of meals sensible then maybe have a pizza or some donuts ect.Ulc days keep them as close to equal as possible all day.
as i read this im sipping on a coffee with double cream as i am trying to evem out my portions lol
haha I did the same last night. My PWO shake without a backload left my protein pretty high so I had some decaf w/ lots of cream and coconut oil to add some fat.To OP: The extra fat will aid in recovery, but I don't know whether the raised insulin from higher protein damage is already done. Try to focus more on each meal rather than the whole day.Doing this every once in a while won't be too bad, just don't make a habit of it. If you realize it just after a meal, then I would consider downing some quick fat(extra fish oil pills maybe?).
September 27, 2012 at 1:44 pm #85502
Brandon D ChristParticipantSo during prep phase and ULC days ratio is 1:1 say my protein at the end of the day is 180grams (very easy to do) and my fat is sitting at 120grams after my last meal, is it nesacery to add fats e.g cream, mct, oils etc to even it to the 1:1 ratio, my thinking is just adding fats just for the sake of it WILL cause more increase in a "spill over" or the dredded word "gaining fat" because weather we focus on calories or not, that is alot of extra calories we are adding in!! and yes i know how easy it is to add fats, but this is just for instance and has happened a couple days due to enjoying some breast lol
Nope no need to add more fat. Really it is the ratio per meal that matters, not the overall ratio for the day. Just don't consume a chicken breast by itself. Personally I do a little bit better from a digestive standpoint when the ratio is slightly in favor of protein. I notice no difference as far as fat loss goes.Â
September 27, 2012 at 2:27 pm #85503
jcgomezMemberPersonally I do a little bit better from a digestive standpoint when the ratio is slightly in favor of protein. I notice no difference as far as fat loss goes.
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September 28, 2012 at 5:58 am #85504
CainoParticipantbeautiful, i feel as though im not eating enough on my ULC part of the day, about 80g of each and still feeling not crash hot and thats more then half my bodyweight, 145lbs anyone ramped it up too much? as i said i know the focus isnt on calories, but what would one shoot for for a whole day for training and ULC day.i know my training day i had over 4000 cals lol solid effert!
September 28, 2012 at 9:06 am #85505
webbyMemberI wasn't eating enough on my ULC carb days. Was getting 150g of each (I'm 145lbs) but wasn't gaining weight despite being getting 100g of each in the first part of the day followed by 350-400g carbs after training 4 nights a week.I've increased ULC days to 200g of each throughout 3 meals and my weight is starting to increase.
September 28, 2012 at 10:36 am #85506
CainoParticipantI like what im seeing webby, just for me there is a real fine line between losing and gaining fat, due to a fucked up endochrine system in recovery! Please let me know how you go mate i will benvery interested, im having about 400gs of carbs due to having a sweet tooth on some noghts lol the others are about 300
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