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October 5, 2012 at 6:56 pm #4454
MikehrMemberHey so still really new to Carb Backloading and I am wanting to utilize it for cutting while at least maintaining muscle (If i don't gain muscle here its not a big deal I just wanna loose these last few). Today is my 4th day on CBL and every day looks something like this and I just wanna make sure its ok. For the record I track, count and weigh everything that I eat. Its just habit nowIm about 6'0 165 and probably around 10 percent bodyfat.Any advice Is appreciated and Im open to suggestions930 Am Wake up and have a cup of coffee with 1tbsp MCT oil1130-12 pm: 1 scoop ON Cassein, 1 tbsp mct oil, 2 omega 3 eggs and 30g walnuts 1 CLA pill230-3: 45-50 grams of protein from either tilapia, extra lean ground turkey or stewing beef, 200g mushrooms, 1tbsp MCT oil, 2 fish oil pills 1 Cla pill 430- Pre workout supplement with creatine Train at 5-615 ish15 Minutes post workout I have 1.5 scoop Isoflex and 2 slices of White bread with caffeine, creatine and glutamine7-730 1.5 cup white rice and 200g cooked chicken breast. 1 cla pill After this usually just fill in with things like pop-tarts, half the fat ice cream and maybe some pumpkin pie but stopping around 9. Before bed either 1 scoop cassein or the equal amount of fatfree no sugar added greek yogurt My Macros usually end up around 105 fats, 230 carbs, 230 protein 2800 calsMy questions are Should I eat more carbs? if i do what about calories in calories out theory? My results have been good so far down 2 pounds in 4 days but that seems too fast. and Is there any benefit to keeping fat down later on in the backload? Ive read the book but still a bit confused about these things!
October 5, 2012 at 8:57 pm #87125
Big_RParticipantHmm… that's a bit tricky since you are around 10% bf – Usually i hear of most people doing sort of a hybrid between CBL and CNS to maintain fat but your goal is to get leaner so i don't know. I'm interested to hear some good feedback. Personally at 10% i would rather start building muscle.... you don't want to be SO RIPPED that you see your SPLEEN! Lol i kid of course
October 5, 2012 at 9:44 pm #87126
MikehrMemberHey man,Yeah I was kinda thinking the same thing haha just taper off this cut and begin to try and add lean muscle with CBL. Have you had any success with building using this program? And would you recommend a standard cal intake for CBL? such as maintenance-500 for cut and maintenance + 500 for bulk?
October 6, 2012 at 1:50 am #87127
Big_RParticipantHey man,Yeah I was kinda thinking the same thing haha just taper off this cut and begin to try and add lean muscle with CBL. Have you had any success with building using this program? And would you recommend a standard cal intake for CBL? such as maintenance-500 for cut and maintenance + 500 for bulk?
Check my log if u have access. If not then yes I have had much success on density bulking cbl. I did cbl as for a while too and it works great. Personally (my opinion) if I was you I would bulk. You are in a really good position being that u are already very lean. That means you are going to look bigger anyway and you will have the definition to go along with it. You could do CBL SA and if you start to gain bf then you can modify your back loads.... since u are pretty lean you will have to feel it out for yourself and pay attention to what works and what doesn't. Its a very personal process, ya know. There are some guys running modified CNS on here so if u search the forum you can probably contact them and get there input.Best of luck!
October 6, 2012 at 1:54 am #87128
MikehrMemberHey so whats the main difference between SA and Density bulking I read the book but forget and “i have exhausted my downloads of it from my e-mail” And I'm definitely gonna go check your log
October 6, 2012 at 4:34 am #87129
Lesli BortzParticipantHey so whats the main difference between SA and Density bulking I read the book but forget and "i have exhausted my downloads of it from my e-mail" And I'm definitely gonna go check your log
Save it to your computer!SA = Delivers significant increases in strength, moderate to low mass gain, and massive fat loss. Besidesthose already starting at a body fat percent below 10, lean body mass gain is likely and even then is still possible. Very few people who follow the lean strength plan don’t gain muscle. The result: ripped and jacked.DB = Use the Density Bulking protocol if the ultimate goal is an increase in body weight by 10 to 20% while keeping body fat percentage the same. This could mean a small increase in body fat, but not much.
October 6, 2012 at 8:00 am #87130
earlyriserMemberYou said 1.5 cups of rice is that cooked or pre cooked? There is quite a bit difference!
October 7, 2012 at 6:51 am #87131
JB313GuestTry to get more veggies in during the day (I usually rotate between spinach, broccoli, and asparagus) and don't be afraid to eat fatty meats like bacon. Kiefer explains again and again that you have to eat fat to lost fat. As a bonus, saturated fat turns into testosterone.
October 7, 2012 at 9:35 pm #87132
MikehrMemberHey so whats the main difference between SA and Density bulking I read the book but forget and "i have exhausted my downloads of it from my e-mail" And I'm definitely gonna go check your log
Save it to your computer!SA = Delivers significant increases in strength, moderate to low mass gain, and massive fat loss. Besidesthose already starting at a body fat percent below 10, lean body mass gain is likely and even then is still possible. Very few people who follow the lean strength plan don’t gain muscle. The result: ripped and jacked.DB = Use the Density Bulking protocol if the ultimate goal is an increase in body weight by 10 to 20% while keeping body fat percentage the same. This could mean a small increase in body fat, but not much.
I tried but it got saved as like a note document and its impossible to read!
October 7, 2012 at 9:35 pm #87133
MikehrMemberYou said 1.5 cups of rice is that cooked or pre cooked? There is quite a bit difference!
Thatts 1.5 cooked rice haha
October 7, 2012 at 9:37 pm #87134
MikehrMemberTry to get more veggies in during the day (I usually rotate between spinach, broccoli, and asparagus) and don't be afraid to eat fatty meats like bacon. Kiefer explains again and again that you have to eat fat to lost fat. As a bonus, saturated fat turns into testosterone.
OK good to know its hard to shake my generic bodybuilding foods, chicken breast, tuna, tilapia but I will pick up some lean ground beef tommorow and give that a try and ok good idea about the veggies.
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