Heavy weights (5/3/1) on vlc (CNS)

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    MagnumT
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    Is it me, or do other people see a drop in power/strength during CNS ?If so ( and considering your running 5/3/1 ) how would you tweak it to fit your dietI am allready on my third straight re-intro (vlc) day, and I feel like hell. Plus Ive got tons of muscle soreness that I havint had since HS football (many many moons ago). Was sapposed to pull 465x3 but could only manage 3 and 1/2 singles. 3 weeks prior , on CBL I pulled 475x3.

    #96214

    systemf
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    Seems like you had success with CBL, why did you switch?

    #96215

    MagnumT
    Member

    A few things First off i went on vacation and gained some fluff. I also wasn't dropping any real weight on CBL, and I have some fights comming up so my weight has to be right

    #96216

    Lesli Bortz
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    I've had great strength gains – BUT it's from a female perspective.

    #96217

    systemf
    Member

    I you feel weak, try having a CN every 5th night. However if you have fights/meets and your numbers are suffering then I woud do CBL- SA. Also have you read the post by Jesse Burdick, in short try to do your max lifts 3-4 day out from a CN. Here is the link. http://www.dangerouslyhardcore.com/2113/carb-nite-how-you-can-and-should-get-stronger/

    #96218

    MagnumT
    Member

    Gotcha ! I usually run a 2day 5/3/1 split and would have to carbnite on sunday so monday and wensday I can be sharp. Worse comes to wrose I can allways scale back 10 %.  If I can get around the weight I want ( 19lbs less from today )  I'll switch to back to CBL-SA Thanks bud !

    #96219

    systemf
    Member

    No problem. Hope you meet and exceed your goals.

    #96220

    Big_R
    Participant

    I had great success in making a few PRs on Carb nite,  i would say only a few things attributed to that: 1) sticking to it, not screwing up my ULC meals and eating carbs2) ADJUSTING.  It was a big mental thing for me so once i got used to it, it was normal going without carbs.3) VOLUME!  with or without carbs this matters... i noticed that when i lowered the Volume and aimed for much more intense workouts i realized i could put more effort into what i was doing and not only that, i could actually recover from my workouts without carbs.  And when you lift heavy shit, that is not an easy task to do!Cheers

    #96221

    Duslep
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    My strength has gone up in squat and bench so.ce doing CNS. My dead however has gone down, now there are a number of factors that I could guess as to why my dead is weaker. First reason is that my dead day is generally towards end of the week after a heavy squat and bench day, so by that point carbs are depleted, I adjusted and moved it to within 3 days of eating carbs, still feels weaker. The nxt reason I can guess us that my gut has shrank and I don't have as much push in my belt at the bottom as I used to. I think there is a combination of things and as I continue to lose inches I will have to relearn how to deadliftvwith a new body. Don't know if that helped, just my opinion.

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