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October 30, 2012 at 6:10 pm #5001
TheCowboyFanKeymasterWhat tweaks have been made since Kiefer wrote his book in 2005? Just curious. Thank you.
October 30, 2012 at 6:17 pm #98916
Richard SchmittModeratorA couple of them. You might want to search around the forums a bit.
October 30, 2012 at 6:33 pm #98917
TheCowboyFanGuestHa! Not going to make it easy for me? Okay I will look when I have time. Thanks.
October 30, 2012 at 7:44 pm #98918
Lesli BortzParticipantNo one is trying to make it difficult, you just had a ridiculously generic question.Once you have a specific list of questions that you can't find the answer to with a search, anyone here is glad to help.
October 31, 2012 at 9:32 pm #98919
PhilipGuestHey TheCowboyFan, good question, I don't think Kiefer has done any updates, so I'll do my best hopefully, we can get some more people contributing or critiquing/modifying what I write down. Make this forum even more active….Firstly I am no Doctor - but with every diet especially Keto Diets psychology is important. The Keto Diet will pretty much guarantee fat loss, so you want to make the process as optimal as possible. Make it enjoyable - you will be doing it in 3/6 month cycles. So without further ado...not all points are Tweaks, some are just points of Emphasis 1. Net Carbs at 20g per day [1] 2. Saturated Fat is allowed, Trans Fat is not allowed! [2][3]4]3. Make the diet enjoyable everyday, eat quality foods, eat low carb Dark Chocolate etc. in extreme moderation4. Less thinking more doing - Kiefers concept of 6 months minimum on the diet is a great idea and use whatever it takes to stick to it. See Rule 3. Google around about motivation. Rome wasn't built in a day. Make each day succesful and you'll have what you want a few months down the line. (As you know this doesn't just apply to diet, working smart and hard everyday will give you success in all aspects of your life)5. If your not seeing results within the first two months have no fear (see source below Lyle Mcdonalds unscientific, yet possible explanation using the concept of "whooshes") [5]6. Hit your Macros, get your Fibre and Multi-Vitamin don't be in a deficit (this point is controverial and debated as to whether a deficit makes a difference when it comes to fat loss on Keto diets)Bonus you already know:7. Drink Lots of water. You don't want your energy levels, or for me more importantly your concentrations levels to fluctuate dramatically. [6]Side note: If anyone has any notes on the ideal Carb numbers during a Carb-Nite/load, for those doing resistant training during the week that would be a good thing to add. Source:[1]. Most Keto Diets including Carb Nite say ideally you want no Carbs on Low Carb Days but that is unrealistic so they have added a catchment based on science. Some say 50g, Kiefer says 30g. Dr. Eric C. Westman - Associate Professor of Medicine at Duke University specializing in low carb diets says 20ghttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dSLf4bzAyOM&feature=my_liked_videos&list=LLKnrtp4Q3pG-7vZQDpfG3eg[2]. See Dr. Eric Westman video. [3] John Hopkins School of Medicine - study conclusion, during a short period of time in this case 3 months, saturated fat didn't increase the likely hood of conventional problems. Having your body in a Low Carb state changes the way your body processes various types of fat. http://www.hopkinsmedicine.org/news/media/releases/low_carb_higher_fat_diets_add_no_arterial_health_risks_to_obese_people_seeking_to_lose_weight[4] Lyle Mcdonald - review of various types of fat - http://www.bodyrecomposition.com/nutrition/a-primer-on-dietary-fats-part-2.html[5] http://www.bodyrecomposition.com/fat-loss/of-whooshes-and-squishy-fat.html[6] The Art and Science of Low Carbohydrate Living - Stephen D. Phinney (Author), Jeff S. Volek (Author)You can argue that these aren't perfect sources, but I don't do this as my day job. I just enjoy reading around from people who are qualified to interpret the research. Lets keep more tips and Tweaks coming!
October 31, 2012 at 11:13 pm #98920
Zach516MemberFor carb loading, if you wanted a number, I would use somewhere along the lines of 1.5-3g/lb bodyweight. That would be noting that some people maybe able to go much higher than that, esepcially on carb nite. All in all, I say go wild and don't quantify until you stop seeing results. The “mental” aspect of this diet is as crucial if not more than the actual physiological processes.
November 1, 2012 at 4:23 pm #98921
PhilipGuestFor carb loading, if you wanted a number, I would use somewhere along the lines of 1.5-3g/lb bodyweight. That would be noting that some people maybe able to go much higher than that, esepcially on carb nite. All in all, I say go wild and don't quantify until you stop seeing results. The "mental" aspect of this diet is as crucial if not more than the actual physiological processes.
Perfect again Zach, thanks for these quick responses. I was wondering why I kept seeing ridiculous numbers of people going to 620g Carbs on some Forums. You've certainly helped me to make it that much enjoyable. Whats the upper limit on Fat Levels on Carb Nite for the whole day? What do you recommend based on the different things you've read ?
November 1, 2012 at 5:18 pm #98922
Zach516MemberI dont think there is a limit per say, I would just keep that fat to whats in the foods you are eating. For example, on carb nite, dont purposely increase fat intake by putting butter on everything. Carb nite again, you should just enjoy yourself.Now if we are talking optimal, I would say probably keep fat under 20% of you intake on carb nite. Fat doesn't boost fat burning hormones, that is driven by carbohydrate intake. Furthermore, when carb intake is increase, fatty acid storage is also increased. Is it a big deal? No, not in my experience. Is it worth noting? yes.From what I have tried, you would have to do something really stupid on carb nite for it not to work. So what it really comes down to is finding a personal balance between enjoyable and optimal.
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