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December 20, 2012 at 5:03 pm #5774
AugustKeymasterWhat about Glutten Free (restaurant/takeout) Pizza? There seem to be a more options for Gluten-free Pizza now. . . I understand that it is unlikely that all Gluten-free Pizzas are going to be equal/contain the same stuff in the crust in place of gluten/wheat . . but I was wondering (generally how appropriate Gluten free Pizza would be for Carb Nites (as far as still containing carbs that spike insulin. Reason: Pizza is yummy but Gluten might be something best avoided.I recently read Domino's and Pizza Hut offer Gluten Free Pizza . . . I'm not a big fan of the big chains . . There is a local place that is using SmartFlour (see http://www.smartflourfoods.com)the ingredients are:
Smart Flour (Tapioca Flour, Amaranth Flour, Teff Flour, Sorghum Flour),Water, Modified Tapioca Starch, Potato Starch, Flaxseed Meal, Olive Oil, Honey, Yeast, Sugar, Salt, Baking Powder, Guar Gum, Salt, Xanthan Gum, Baking Soda
source: http://www.smartflourfoods.com/?q=pizzacrustsI guess what I need to do is find out 1) how the total amount of carbs compares b/t the regular and the Gluten free crust . . and then 2) how the GI values compare between wheat four and the ingredients that they use to replace the wheat four . . is that right?What is a good resource for looking up the GI values for sort of obscure ingredients like Tapioca four? . . Or can somebody sort of eyeball it? . . I have to admit that I don't have much prospective on how much various ingredients are going to spike insulin.
December 20, 2012 at 5:32 pm #125754
Robert GrayParticipantTapioca is pretty high GI to my knowledge. I think the sub-optimal gluten free flours are those that are based on bean flours.
December 20, 2012 at 6:09 pm #125755
Richard SchmittModeratorPersonally you're better off making your own. As it states on their website, you're not guaranteed that the pizza will be gluten free. Cross-contamination and such. Just avoid whole grain starch, anything with agave, and brown rice.
December 20, 2012 at 6:11 pm #125756
Trevor G FullbrightModeratorPersonally you're better off making your own. As it states on their website, you're not guaranteed that the pizza will be gluten free. Cross-contamination and such. Just avoid whole grain starch, anything with agave, and brown rice.
This depends on your sensitivity though. I'm fine with stuff that might be cross-contaminated but if I eat stuff like cookies, cake, or a normal pizza I get pretty bad cramps for the next few days.
December 20, 2012 at 6:19 pm #125757
Richard SchmittModeratorThis is true. I'm pretty sensitive, and just sending a warning out to other.
December 20, 2012 at 9:14 pm #125758
samuel r walkerParticipantI didnt noticeably become gluten sensitive until 3 1/2 months into cns… crazy
December 20, 2012 at 9:15 pm #125759
Richard SchmittModeratorI didnt noticeably become gluten sensitive until 3 1/2 months into cns... crazy
Good thing you noticed it now. Is it bad bad? Or too much normal pizza causes bad effects? (pizza is just an example)
December 20, 2012 at 10:46 pm #125760
AugustGuestIf you're not know to be particularly sensitive to gluten . . but just philosophy inclined to avoid it (paleo leaning) . . . do you think it would work okay on Carb Nites . .. as far as spiking insulin? I Guess my goal for carb nights is insulinogenic/high GI/insulin spiking . .minimally processed (I know, I know . .but I don't want to make my own pizza) . .as gluten free as possible for what it is ( I think it might actually be a plus to get very small exposures occasionally . . . because I don't want anything really untoward to happen if I even have to eat of the gluten . . again for that is someone who is not particularly sensitive to gluten . . the rules would be different for someone who is wildly sensitive to gluten . . I don't really think it is exactly good for anybody) . . and I guess relatively low in fructose and free various really bad things like transfats.
December 21, 2012 at 2:38 pm #125761
samuel r walkerParticipantI didnt noticeably become gluten sensitive until 3 1/2 months into cns... crazy
Good thing you noticed it now. Is it bad bad? Or too much normal pizza causes bad effects? (pizza is just an example)
I wouldnt say bad bad, but if I were to eat something like pizza then my CN would be over from abdominal discomfort and splitting headaches... Had my first completely gf CN last week topped with a home made icecream cake.. Felt awesome.
December 22, 2012 at 2:59 pm #125762
Alan TorellMemberI didnt noticeably become gluten sensitive until 3 1/2 months into cns... crazy
Good thing you noticed it now. Is it bad bad? Or too much normal pizza causes bad effects? (pizza is just an example)
I wouldnt say bad bad, but if I were to eat something like pizza then my CN would be over from abdominal discomfort and splitting headaches... Had my first completely gf CN last week topped with a home made icecream cake.. Felt awesome.
You said in the earlier post that it was 3 1/2 months into CNS that you first noticed a gluten sensitivity. Is this your 1st time being pretty gluten free?When you think back to before that, did you ever get that combo of symptoms... abdominal discomfort and headaches? I think a lot of people have varying degrees of gluten reactions or sensitivities other than the classical forms (Celiac disease, dermatitis herpetiformis)... and they don't even know it until they go gluten free for awhile, feel really good, then get a gluten challenge and the symptoms pop them in the mouth. Then they start to put it together... what was a minor annoyance in the past becomes much more noticeable. There is a saying in my profession that "you can't diagnose what you don't know" or recognize.For me, I had had intermittent diarrhea (IBS?) for years. I went ULC following the Reverse Taper Diet, then paleo, now CNS and that issue has pretty much resolved. I'm monitoring what happens when I gluten challenge... my 1st carb nite included a pretty good whack of pizza (which I had done before) and I got pretty uncomfortably full... not sure if it was the fourth piece of the 16" pizza (I had done that before too) or the kickoff cherry cheese danish (in honor of Kiefer 😉 and 6 California rolls. I did have some diarrhea the next morning too. Gluten? Maybe... or was it just a giant food bolus after 8-9 days ULC? I felt good otherwise.
December 22, 2012 at 5:19 pm #125763
samuel r walkerParticipantThats the crazy part, I never noticed these symptoms prior to excluding it. Id slam a whole pizza then still be able to polish off a carton of ice cream.. now if I have 2 pieces I feel like hell
December 23, 2012 at 12:05 am #125764
Richard SchmittModeratorI didnt noticeably become gluten sensitive until 3 1/2 months into cns... crazy
Good thing you noticed it now. Is it bad bad? Or too much normal pizza causes bad effects? (pizza is just an example)
I wouldnt say bad bad, but if I were to eat something like pizza then my CN would be over from abdominal discomfort and splitting headaches... Had my first completely gf CN last week topped with a home made icecream cake.. Felt awesome.
Oh yes I was the same way, experimented with non-gluten free stuff (or wasn't paying attention too much) and suffered from it. I always eat gluten free. May I suggest a Digestive Enyzme from NOW Foods to help with the next CN!?
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