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December 27, 2012 at 2:27 am #128817
Lesli BortzParticipantLol…
December 27, 2012 at 3:43 am #128800
WhereIsMyBaconMemberThis was shared by Robb Wolf in October 2012: http://chriskresser.com/the-nitrate-and-nitrite-myth-another-reason-not-to-fear-baconIf you really are concerned about the "big bad nitrates/nitrites" you can cure your own bacon at home to provide some peace of mind. Second, it can be a great way to get kids to understand various forms of food preparation. Last I checked, celery seeds are very high in nitrates. So are beets. They make great vasodilators and diuretics.I buy my bacon in bulk (2kg+/week). Up to November 2012, I sourced my bacon from a organic free range farm in Quebec, Canada. Since November 2012, I started buying from a local butcher (non-organic). The major difference I noticed was the amount of fat that I could render from organic bacon vs. the non-organic stuff. Without potassium nitrates (the commercially added food preservative) bacon would not be bacon, it would be pork belly.Lastly, a personal story, back in 2007, I weighed 118kg. I discovered the "paleo fad" and eliminated all grains and pseudo-grains, ate all my veggies raw, and downed 5kg of bacon a week. Bacon, and rendered bacon fat was my only fat source. I went from 118kg to 80kg in six months.Bacon has magical powers. You should eat more of it 🙂P.s. Looking at my pictures, you'll think to yourself: "why should I take bacon advice" from the fat brown guy?" The extra weight is from downing three litres of milk a day whilst on SS - don't blame the bacon 😉
December 27, 2012 at 5:25 am #128801
Eric ShawMemberOk, I read the Chris Kresser article, and that cleared up the nitrates issue pretty well. But what I still don't get is I thought the whole issue with the nitrates in bacon is heating the bacon to a point where it forms a new carcinogenic compound, nitrosamines?I've heard Dr. patel say he bakes his bacon in the oven at 200 degrees, but my oven doesn't go below 350 which I believe is still plenty hot to form nitrosamines. Here is quote from the article; not sure what to make of it exactly. Maybe Dr. Patel could chime in."Critical reviews of the original evidence suggesting that nitrates/nitrites are carcinogenic reveals that in the absence of co-administration of a carcinogenic nitrosamine precursor, there is no evidence for carcinogenesis." What exactly would be a nitrosamine pre-cursor?What am I missing here?
December 27, 2012 at 5:38 am #128818
cloudybrainParticipantI buy turkey bacon strips, mainly since I don't like the taste of pig. Whenever I go to a restaurant, they cook them differently. For example, the pig bacon is tougher and crispier and holds his shape when you pick it. Turkey bacon kind of flops over, isn't as crispy, but still has some texture to it.I kind of press down on the bacon to remove the fat.. or atleast pat it down with a napkin since I'm not sure what kind of oils they use. If I cook at home, I make sure to use coconut oil; which tastes great. For those of you who don't like the taste of coconut oil, there is a cheaper alternative called expeller coconut oil which doesn't smell or taste like coconut at all.Mainly people like bacon I guess because it's a neutral, it has a nice protein to fat ratio, and it's only one item to consume. So you don't have to eat an extra item to compensate what the other item is lacking; like eating cheese (fat) with your chicken leg (protein).If you don't like bacon, you can always eat meat with some butter on it; like salmon, which is an awesome and perhaps better alternative.
December 27, 2012 at 2:37 pm #128819
Brandon D ChristParticipantOk, I read the Chris Kresser article, and that cleared up the nitrates issue pretty well. But what I still don't get is I thought the whole issue with the nitrates in bacon is heating the bacon to a point where it forms a new carcinogenic compound, nitrosamines?I've heard Dr. patel say he bakes his bacon in the oven at 200 degrees, but my oven doesn't go below 350 which I believe is still plenty hot to form nitrosamines. Here is quote from the article; not sure what to make of it exactly. Maybe Dr. Patel could chime in."Critical reviews of the original evidence suggesting that nitrates/nitrites are carcinogenic reveals that in the absence of co-administration of a carcinogenic nitrosamine precursor, there is no evidence for carcinogenesis." What exactly would be a nitrosamine pre-cursor?What am I missing here?
Just pan fry it at a low temperature.Â
December 27, 2012 at 3:08 pm #128810
Sveta1017MemberThanks for the article from Robb wolf, WIMB! I've met him and trust him. That's the thing about reading new studies, you have to trust the source! One of the reasons I avoided nitrates to begin with was I too did paleo for quite sometime and was told to avoid them! Paleo was very much against it and deli meat too…(though I think that is because of salt content!). Anyhoo, thanks for educating me everyone. I heart bacon! I'm love it crispy though so low cooking it is for the birds.
December 29, 2012 at 9:28 pm #128820
WhereIsMyBaconMemberThanks for the article from Robb wolf, WIMB! I've met him and trust him. That's the thing about reading new studies, you have to trust the source! One of the reasons I avoided nitrates to begin with was I too did paleo for quite sometime and was told to avoid them! Paleo was very much against it and deli meat too...(though I think that is because of salt content!). Anyhoo, thanks for educating me everyone. I heart bacon! I'm love it crispy though so low cooking it is for the birds.
No worries.Just a clarification, the article was posted by Robb, although it is written by Chris Kresser.
December 30, 2012 at 7:12 am #128821
Dr. Rocky PatelParticipantI think this gets over analyzed, just find some bacon you like and eat it.Personally, I have been getting the trader joe uncured bacon only b/c I like the taste. I am sure it is not of best quality, but it easy to get. I do try to cook at lower temps, but there are times when I don't have 2 hours to cook it, so 350 for 30-45 min works for me well+1 on curing your own bacon, best way to go, I am still working in getting some quality pork belly
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