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What about doing the pre-workout that Kiefer talks about in the book? the one with Ham and jelly? is it still accurate to eat it when your DB?Im thinking of doing it someday, 3 hours before the WO, eating a heavy and carby meal, but i dont know if thats good for me since i wanna keep my 7% BF and that level!
IIRC, the pre-workout meal is only for working out at night. Maybe I'm not remembering correctly, but I don't remember DB protocol being any different with respect to eating a meal pre-workout.I also think it's meant more for ~1 hour before workout. 3 hours before your workout, and all the food will be stored/used.
+1, I'm pretty sure that's right.
Correct. The official CBL protocol for DB is to only eat a pre workout meal with carbs if you are training late at night and you don't have enough time to get your carbs in. If you can get all your carbs in the backload, do not have a pre workout meal.Of course this is only a recommendation. if you know what you are doing, you can have a pre-workout meal with carbs.
And training late night its my case 🙂I WO mostly at 9PM, so this meal should be a good ideia?
When do you normally go to bed?
I've found intra-workout shakes to do very little, even for energy levels. Overall nutrition has had a much greater impact on my lifting sessions.
X a bazillion!
I believe this is highly individual. I don't need much, but I found a little bit of carbs intra workout does help me keep intensity as high as possible. I found that number to be around 25 g (a single serving of glycofuse) is all I need. I tried higher dosages and noticed no difference, but I have found that I can handle more volume and intensity compared to no carbs at all.However, I would not be surprised if most people notice no effect at all. I believe nitty gritty nutrition stuff does matter the more you are advanced, but I think beginners should be much more focused on training and just eating the right types of foods.
Have you tried a similar amount of carbs intra from straight dextrose? Interested in how you find the difference if there is one.
I've found intra-workout shakes to do very little, even for energy levels. Overall nutrition has had a much greater impact on my lifting sessions.
X a bazillion!
I believe this is highly individual. I don't need much, but I found a little bit of carbs intra workout does help me keep intensity as high as possible. I found that number to be around 25 g (a single serving of glycofuse) is all I need. I tried higher dosages and noticed no difference, but I have found that I can handle more volume and intensity compared to no carbs at all.However, I would not be surprised if most people notice no effect at all. I believe nitty gritty nutrition stuff does matter the more you are advanced, but I think beginners should be much more focused on training and just eating the right types of foods.
Have you tried a similar amount of carbs intra from straight dextrose? Interested in how you find the difference if there is one.
I go hypoglycemic with dextrose. That does not happen with amylopectin based carbs.
Sometimes midnight, sometimes a little sooner or later when i WO at 9:00PM
It's all irrelevant. Can you get all your carbs in PWO? If the answer is yes, then do not have a pre workout meal. If the answer is no, then have one.
I've found intra-workout shakes to do very little, even for energy levels. Overall nutrition has had a much greater impact on my lifting sessions.
X a bazillion!
I believe this is highly individual. I don't need much, but I found a little bit of carbs intra workout does help me keep intensity as high as possible. I found that number to be around 25 g (a single serving of glycofuse) is all I need. I tried higher dosages and noticed no difference, but I have found that I can handle more volume and intensity compared to no carbs at all.However, I would not be surprised if most people notice no effect at all. I believe nitty gritty nutrition stuff does matter the more you are advanced, but I think beginners should be much more focused on training and just eating the right types of foods.
Have you tried a similar amount of carbs intra from straight dextrose? Interested in how you find the difference if there is one.
I go hypoglycemic with dextrose. That does not happen with amylopectin based carbs.
Really? Do you down the whole drink quickly and not drink it throughout the session?
Sometimes midnight, sometimes a little sooner or later when i WO at 9:00PM
It's all irrelevant. Can you get all your carbs in PWO? If the answer is yes, then do not have a pre workout meal. If the answer is no, then have one.
I can yes, i put 100g dextrose after the workout and the rest 1 hour after,But if the last thing that i need is the PWO shake then i could go to bed sooner wich is better for me imo..My question remains, does that kind of pre-train meal have any fat gain effects or is the carb and fat release slow enough for the body to not use it as fat storage?
Sometimes midnight, sometimes a little sooner or later when i WO at 9:00PM
It's all irrelevant. Can you get all your carbs in PWO? If the answer is yes, then do not have a pre workout meal. If the answer is no, then have one.
I can yes, i put 100g dextrose after the workout and the rest 1 hour after,But if the last thing that i need is the PWO shake then i could go to bed sooner wich is better for me imo..My question remains, does that kind of pre-train meal have any fat gain effects or is the carb and fat release slow enough for the body to not use it as fat storage?
It's not going to be optimal, but it is one of the protocols that Kiefer outlined. You may notice better energy for the workout, however you might sacrifice a bit of fat loss from an insulin release pre-workout. I would try it for a week and see how you feel on it. If it's cutting into your sleep, then it may really be worth it to have the pre-workout meal and resume normal sleep.
I've found intra-workout shakes to do very little, even for energy levels. Overall nutrition has had a much greater impact on my lifting sessions.
X a bazillion!
I believe this is highly individual. I don't need much, but I found a little bit of carbs intra workout does help me keep intensity as high as possible. I found that number to be around 25 g (a single serving of glycofuse) is all I need. I tried higher dosages and noticed no difference, but I have found that I can handle more volume and intensity compared to no carbs at all.However, I would not be surprised if most people notice no effect at all. I believe nitty gritty nutrition stuff does matter the more you are advanced, but I think beginners should be much more focused on training and just eating the right types of foods.
Have you tried a similar amount of carbs intra from straight dextrose? Interested in how you find the difference if there is one.
I go hypoglycemic with dextrose. That does not happen with amylopectin based carbs.
Really? Do you down the whole drink quickly and not drink it throughout the session?
I have done both, sipping and all at once. The result is the same regardless.
Sometimes midnight, sometimes a little sooner or later when i WO at 9:00PM
It's all irrelevant. Can you get all your carbs in PWO? If the answer is yes, then do not have a pre workout meal. If the answer is no, then have one.
I can yes, i put 100g dextrose after the workout and the rest 1 hour after,But if the last thing that i need is the PWO shake then i could go to bed sooner wich is better for me imo..My question remains, does that kind of pre-train meal have any fat gain effects or is the carb and fat release slow enough for the body to not use it as fat storage?
It's not going to be optimal, but it is one of the protocols that Kiefer outlined. You may notice better energy for the workout, however you might sacrifice a bit of fat loss from an insulin release pre-workout. I would try it for a week and see how you feel on it. If it's cutting into your sleep, then it may really be worth it to have the pre-workout meal and resume normal sleep.
Im going to try it then 🙂IF i have to eat a meal after the PWO Shake then yes, my sleep is affected since i have to sleep 1-1:30h less :/
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