I was eating steak omelettes with cheese…they were. I do eat egg beaters better than whites nothing to do back flips over

Its hard to change your thinking...Ive been to Phil Heath seminars he says one thing someone says something else. I was radical for my time doing the Body Opus. Fat protien 70-30 ration 5 days in a row 2 days super high carbs with protien for 2 days repeat..I was called crazy when everyone was eating oats and egg whites! lolol. Im 41.

It is hard to change your way of thinking. I started working out in 2002 and that's when Body For Life by Bill Phillips was really popular and the first health/workout information I latched on to. 6 balanced meals a day, cardio 3 times a week, etc. A lot of this was tough to shake and come into CN with a new mindset otherwise I would have failed from the start.On days I workout I have 3 meals, PWO shake, and something small before bed. Non workout days is the same minus the PWO shake and depending on what I have going on Sunday mornings I skip the late snack.

The problem with nutrition is that everybody thinks they know what's best. Be it the old granny warning you about cholesterol in eggs, a doctor telling you red meat is dangerous or the keto advocates swearing none of the former matters and all you need to do is cut carbs out. Then you have the IIFYMs crowd telling you to eat whatever/whenever, overzealous paelo vegans and...aaaarh the internet can be such a head ache when it comes to this stuff.I personally like to think nutrition isn't an exact science and what works for me, may not work for others.

I agree a 100%

i eat twice a day and im around 15%. 125 pounds. certainly not hurting me, only getting stronger and dropped more bf

paelo vegans and…

A paleo vegan?  That's interesting...Back to the original topic, I find the issue of protein raising insulin to be less relevant than the fact that a good run on CNS means that for 6.6 days a week, there is almost no extraneous glucose for insulin to transport into fat stores.  I mean, working out raises insulin too, but we don't stop exercising on CNS.

paelo vegans and...

A paleo vegan?  That's interesting...Back to the original topic, I find the issue of protein raising insulin to be less relevant than the fact that a good run on CNS means that for 6.6 days a week, there is almost no extraneous glucose for insulin to transport into fat stores.  I mean, working out raises insulin too, but we don't stop exercising on CNS.

Where are you getting that working out raises insulin levels?

I picked that nugget up from someone on the forums, talking about the insulin effect of PWO whey protein isolate being irrelevant because insulin was already at work after resistance training.

paelo vegans and...

A paleo vegan?  That's interesting...Back to the original topic, I find the issue of protein raising insulin to be less relevant than the fact that a good run on CNS means that for 6.6 days a week, there is almost no extraneous glucose for insulin to transport into fat stores.  I mean, working out raises insulin too, but we don't stop exercising on CNS.

Where are you getting that working out raises insulin levels?

I picked that nugget up from someone on the forums, talking about the insulin effect of PWO whey protein isolate being irrelevant because insulin was already at work after resistance training.

I'm not sure where they got that, exercise doesn't raise insulin.It raises cortisol which are antagonistic hormones.