CBL and Weight Gain

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    MikeScience
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    If you're following a morning training protocol and you are training 3 days per week.. backloading on days you're not working out seems like it won't benefit you as much for fat loss purposes because you are eating carbs at a time when there is little GLUT4 Translocation to the muscle cells. Seems like backloading on an off night because you're training the next day will make you fat, unless your in a caloric deficit. Am I correct in my assumptions?

    #143984

    Gl;itch.e
    Member

    Am I correct in my assumptions?

    No. Hope this helps! (;

    #143985

    Richard Schmitt
    Moderator

    Nope

    #143986

    Mikehr
    Member

    Jesus this is brought up every 5 minutes!Goals-protocolFat Loss-CNSRecomp-CBL SA as written!Strength athletes-CBL SA backload day before training or CBL DBMass and size- CBL DB

    #143987

    Big_R
    Participant

    Am I correct in my assumptions?

    Like the others said..... noyou can definitely backload 7 days a week and train less (3-4 days) without being calorically deficit and without any fat gain.  There are so many variables that its easier to just go with what Mikehr said until you get on a more elite level, where more adjustments are required. Follow the guidelines first then change things if it doesn't work out for you

    #143988

    Mikehr
    Member

    Am I correct in my assumptions?

    Like the others said..... noyou can definitely backload 7 days a week and train less (3-4 days) without being calorically deficit and without any fat gain.  There are so many variables that its easier to just go with what Mikehr said until you get on a more elite level, where more adjustments are required. Follow the guidelines first then change things if it doesn't work out for you

    I played that game when I started, adjusting before doing the actual protocol remember Big R? Spun my wheels for about a month till the numerous virtual slaps, snapped me out of it

    #143989

    Big_R
    Participant

    Am I correct in my assumptions?

    Like the others said..... noyou can definitely backload 7 days a week and train less (3-4 days) without being calorically deficit and without any fat gain.  There are so many variables that its easier to just go with what Mikehr said until you get on a more elite level, where more adjustments are required. Follow the guidelines first then change things if it doesn't work out for you

    I played that game when I started, adjusting before doing the actual protocol remember Big R? Spun my wheels for about a month till the numerous virtual slaps, snapped me out of it

    Yea, the real meat and potatoes of muscle building / fat loss is getting out there and training... which makes all other things possible.  read a good article on meadows site called  yound gunners chasing size or something to that effect.  It was a great way to classify who is elite and can validly benefit in being caught up in every little detail and tweak that science can offer, and who just straight up needs to train hard and stop eating ho ho's    8)  def helps simplify things and give better perspective.    I'd prob get in trouble for copy and pasting it here or i would

    #143990

    Mikehr
    Member

    Am I correct in my assumptions?

    Like the others said..... noyou can definitely backload 7 days a week and train less (3-4 days) without being calorically deficit and without any fat gain.  There are so many variables that its easier to just go with what Mikehr said until you get on a more elite level, where more adjustments are required. Follow the guidelines first then change things if it doesn't work out for you

    I played that game when I started, adjusting before doing the actual protocol remember Big R? Spun my wheels for about a month till the numerous virtual slaps, snapped me out of it

    Yea, the real meat and potatoes of muscle building / fat loss is getting out there and training... which makes all other things possible.  read a good article on meadows site called  yound gunners chasing size or something to that effect.  It was a great way to classify who is elite and can validly benefit in being caught up in every little detail and tweak that science can offer, and who just straight up needs to train hard and stop eating ho ho's    8)  def helps simplify things and give better perspective.    I'd prob get in trouble for copy and pasting it here or i would

    +1 greaat article!

    #143991

    Brandon D Christ
    Participant

    GLUT4 isn't translocated nearly as much, but you will still partition the nutrients to your muscles better do to the strength training effect's on insulin sensitivity in the muscles.  This effect lasts 48 hours.  Also your body will have empty glycogen stores, so you will be storing those carbs in the muscles.  You will have to tone the backloads down, that is the only difference.  Many people have done AM training and got fat loss results.

    #143992

    Gl;itch.e
    Member

    GLUT4 isn't translocated nearly as much, but you will still partition the nutrients to your muscles better do to the strength training effect's on insulin sensitivity in the muscles.  This effect lasts 48 hours.  Also your body will have empty glycogen stores, so you will be storing those carbs in the muscles.  You will have to tone the backloads down, that is the only difference.  Many people have done AM training and got fat loss results.

    YES! I knew someone like iBob would come in and fill the blanks. I was having a "cant be fucked" moment. So much repetition does my head in!

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