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March 19, 2013 at 3:15 pm #7389
bobbitt81MemberWondering if this is a struggle for anyone else.I train in the morning, fasted, just black coffee.After I train, I make a shake: Trader Joe's coconut milk, 1 scoop of True Nutrition isolate/hydrolized blend. About 28g of creatine, 5 g leucine, 1 tbsp of MCT oil, and sometimes a banana, depending on how I'm feeling.I've been getting super nauseous after I do the shake, so I've been doing some Betaine HCL and pancreatic enzymes to help, and that doesn't seem to be doing a whole ton. Does anyone else struggle with this? Have any ideas?
March 19, 2013 at 3:24 pm #164648
.josh.GuestWondering if this is a struggle for anyone else.I train in the morning, fasted, just black coffee.After I train, I make a shake: Trader Joe's coconut milk, 1 scoop of True Nutrition isolate/hydrolized blend. About 28g of creatine, 5 g leucine, 1 tbsp of MCT oil, and sometimes a banana, depending on how I'm feeling.I've been getting super nauseous after I do the shake, so I've been doing some Betaine HCL and pancreatic enzymes to help, and that doesn't seem to be doing a whole ton. Does anyone else struggle with this? Have any ideas?
I'm not sure if this would create stomach issues, but 28 grams of creatine seems quite excessive... and I personally wouldn't be able to handle the fats (particularly from coconut milk) post-workout.
March 19, 2013 at 3:26 pm #164649
bobbitt81MemberFeels like a lot to me too, though using Kiefer's calculation, it seems right. Maybe I cut that significantly for a while.I'm also not using canned coconut milk, it's the coconut milk "beverage" that comes in the carton, so not quite as high on the fats.
March 19, 2013 at 3:28 pm #164650
.josh.GuestFeels like a lot to me too, though using Kiefer's calculation, it seems right. Maybe I cut that significantly for a while.I'm also not using canned coconut milk, it's the coconut milk "beverage" that comes in the carton, so not quite as high on the fats.
Yeah, that's not something I've bought into entirely... I know the stuff. What's the rationale for including it?
March 19, 2013 at 3:49 pm #164651
bobbitt81MemberIt tastes better than water. That's honestly about it. Maybe I should drop it and just mix with water and see what I get.
March 19, 2013 at 3:54 pm #164652
.josh.GuestIt tastes better than water. That's honestly about it. Maybe I should drop it and just mix with water and see what I get.
I'd give that a shot... unless you have some rancid protein, it should still be palatable.
March 19, 2013 at 4:32 pm #164653
bobbitt81MemberI don't think it's the protein. If it is, True Nutrition and I need to have a battle.
March 19, 2013 at 5:40 pm #164647
Brandon D ChristParticipantYou don't have to take the creatine all at once. Try taking half of it then and the other half later.I would try ditching the MCT oil too.
March 19, 2013 at 9:05 pm #164646
Brandon D ChristParticipantFeels like a lot to me too, though using Kiefer's calculation, it seems right. Maybe I cut that significantly for a while.I'm also not using canned coconut milk, it's the coconut milk "beverage" that comes in the carton, so not quite as high on the fats.
Yeah, that's not something I've bought into entirely... I know the stuff. What's the rationale for including it?
For what it's worth, Charles Poliquin seems to think you need to take a lot more creatine than what most people do (the traditional 5 g/day). He reasoning was the training programs used in studies are a lot less intense than what people do in real life. Not that it proves anything, but it's another source pointing to high creatine consumption.Personall I appear to be stronger with this new creatine protocol, but only time will tell.
March 21, 2013 at 12:27 am #164654
bobbitt81MemberThis was definitely better today. I changed multiple factors–cut the creatine in half, dropped the coconut milk, and the MCT oil. I think I was just doing too much in the shake. Can't isolate it to one factor yet, but at least I know it's not the protein!
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