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I'm not sure if this has been discussed on here much before, but it's an issue I encounter regularly whenever I tell people about CBL… “oooh, you'd better watch out eating too much red meat, you'll get bowel cancer”… now I never really have an answer to this, but it is “knowledge” that's been around for years, so I'm wondering if it's like the saturated fat myth and subsequent research and studies have debunked it, or if in fact by eating larger than average quantities of red meat in any given week (as CBL would have us do), we are putting ourselves at higher risk? I really don't know, so just wanted to throw this out there and get some thoughts, preferably with some research to back it up, not simply “nah, it'll be OK” bro-science. 🙂
It's horseshit. Eating large amounts of supermarket red meat that has antibiotics might not be all that great, but if you stick to grass fed meat you will be fine.Just keep this mind, Native Americans that lived on the plains LIVED off of buffalo, which is red meat and cancer was unheard of. Do some reading online for the science.
Just keep this mind, Native Americans that lived on the plains LIVED off of buffalo, which is red meat and cancer was unheard of.Â
While the "red meat causes colon cancer" myth has been debunked, this line of reasoning bothers me to no end. Native Americans by and large didn't live long enough for cancer to be a pervasive problem. On top of that, Cancer is largely insidious unless people are getting CTs, MRIs or more invasive studies (colonoscopies), and I don't know how many autopsies the Native Americans were doing post-mortem to find cancer.
Just keep this mind, Native Americans that lived on the plains LIVED off of buffalo, which is red meat and cancer was unheard of.Â
While the "red meat causes colon cancer" myth has been debunked, this line of reasoning bothers me to no end. Native Americans by and large didn't live long enough for cancer to be a pervasive problem. On top of that, Cancer is largely insidious unless people are getting CTs, MRIs or more invasive studies (colonoscopies), and I don't know how many autopsies the Native Americans were doing post-mortem to find cancer.
Human beings have been aware of cancer for thousands of years. Anyways just because a society had a short life expectancy doesn't mean people didn't regularly live to be that old. Usually a short life expectancy is caused by death in infancy and early childhood.The point was anyways that many cultures traditional diets were based on red meats and yet as a society they were healthy and lived long and healthy lives if they were able to avoid danger or some sort of infectious disease. I am not equating this is to scientific reasoning, it is merely using historical evidence to question the recommendations of the medical establishment.Â
Even if you have a slightly higher risk of cancer from eating red meats (you don't unless you char the yish out of 'em) which couldn't be lowered or counteracted by eating fibrous veggies and maintaining an active lifestyle (it is), I would contend the benefits still outweigh the risks.
https://one.body.io/forums/topic/inchxinch-b2b-log-were-in-hell-gentlemen/
Just keep this mind, Native Americans that lived on the plains LIVED off of buffalo, which is red meat and cancer was unheard of.Â
While the "red meat causes colon cancer" myth has been debunked, this line of reasoning bothers me to no end. Native Americans by and large didn't live long enough for cancer to be a pervasive problem. On top of that, Cancer is largely insidious unless people are getting CTs, MRIs or more invasive studies (colonoscopies), and I don't know how many autopsies the Native Americans were doing post-mortem to find cancer.
Human beings have been aware of cancer for thousands of years. Anyways just because a society had a short life expectancy doesn't mean people didn't regularly live to be that old. Usually a short life expectancy is caused by death in infancy and early childhood.The point was anyways that many cultures traditional diets were based on red meats and yet as a society they were healthy and lived long and healthy lives if they were able to avoid danger or some sort of infectious disease. I am not equating this is to scientific reasoning, it is merely using historical evidence to question the recommendations of the medical establishment.
Yes, cancer has been known about for a long time, but I promise you it was grossly under diagnosed until more modern methods of testing for it became available. Additionally, as far as I have been able to discern, in pre-columbus America, living into the 40s was old, but not unusual. We don't even start screening for colon cancer until 50. The median age at diagnosis nowadays is 71.
Just keep this mind, Native Americans that lived on the plains LIVED off of buffalo, which is red meat and cancer was unheard of.Â
While the "red meat causes colon cancer" myth has been debunked, this line of reasoning bothers me to no end. Native Americans by and large didn't live long enough for cancer to be a pervasive problem. On top of that, Cancer is largely insidious unless people are getting CTs, MRIs or more invasive studies (colonoscopies), and I don't know how many autopsies the Native Americans were doing post-mortem to find cancer.
Human beings have been aware of cancer for thousands of years. Anyways just because a society had a short life expectancy doesn't mean people didn't regularly live to be that old. Usually a short life expectancy is caused by death in infancy and early childhood.The point was anyways that many cultures traditional diets were based on red meats and yet as a society they were healthy and lived long and healthy lives if they were able to avoid danger or some sort of infectious disease. I am not equating this is to scientific reasoning, it is merely using historical evidence to question the recommendations of the medical establishment.
Yes, cancer has been known about for a long time, but I promise you it was grossly under diagnosed until more modern methods of testing for it became available. Additionally, as far as I have been able to discern, in pre-columbus America, living into the 40s was old, but not unusual. We don't even start screening for colon cancer until 50. The median age at diagnosis nowadays is 71.
Problem solved: eat whatever you want, take an arrow to the face at 49 and never worry about cancer again!
Problem solved: eat whatever you want, take an arrow to the face at 49 and never worry about cancer again!
Regardless of whether this was a joke or sarcasm, he has a point. Better to live awesome and die young then live boring and die older.
https://one.body.io/forums/topic/inchxinch-b2b-log-were-in-hell-gentlemen/
Problem solved: eat whatever you want, take an arrow to the face at 49 and never worry about cancer again!
Regardless of whether this was a joke or sarcasm, he has a point. Better to live awesome and die young then live boring and die older.
i'd rather live awesome and die older:)
Problem solved: eat whatever you want, take an arrow to the face at 49 and never worry about cancer again!
Regardless of whether this was a joke or sarcasm, he has a point. Better to live awesome and die young then live boring and die older.
i'd rather live awesome and die older:)
Same with me. And in my experience I don't enjoy activities that shorten your life like eating like shit and drinking heavily. While powerlifting is rough on the joints, for the most part it won't really shorten your life unless your a super heavyweight that does a shitload of steroids and drugs.
Problem solved: eat whatever you want, take an arrow to the face at 49 and never worry about cancer again!
Regardless of whether this was a joke or sarcasm, he has a point. Better to live awesome and die young then live boring and die older.
i'd rather live awesome and die older:)
BAM! Live awesome die old - and not to mention I'd rather be HEALTHY old than just old. Too many old people you look at and just feel sorry for. Someone trip over that cord and put the poor guy out of his misery! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JankgaPZp9w
The idea that red meat causes disease seems to contradict mother nature, who made meat very densely nutritious and abundant in many regions where primitive humans are known to have thrived.Â
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