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July 2, 2013 at 4:52 pm #9008
Tyler StephensParticipantMy target weight is 160.Which means I should consumer anywhere from 45-80 grams of protein during my CBL (counting my PWO) shake according to the chart.I generally shoot for 150 grams protein total per day as that is the amount of which I weigh. I eat 80 grams of protein during my ULC. So that would leave around 70 grams left.My question is, can I lower the total protein in the post-workout formula to like 20-25 grams. That way I can still eat around 25 grams of protein with each of my two backload meals?
July 2, 2013 at 5:27 pm #188764
samuel r walkerParticipantWhy? Eat as much protein as ud like in your backload. Jst know its not necessary to go much higher than 1g per lb of bw
July 2, 2013 at 6:19 pm #188763
Tyler StephensParticipantYea but I really don't want to go to far above that 1 gram per lb of BW mark you know.I don't believe I need as much protein as Kiefer recommends post-workout considering my weight.I've been doing 11 grams of hydro and 11 grams of iso with also 8 grams from the cup of skim milk I add to the shake. That's about 30 grams post-workout.On the flip side, I consume more carbs then he recommends.. Around 60 grams.
July 2, 2013 at 10:16 pm #188765
Gl;itch.eMemberProtein in grams should be at least target weight not current weight. Shoot for 160+
July 3, 2013 at 2:18 am #188766
Tyler StephensParticipantProtein in grams should be at least target weight not current weight. Shoot for 160+
Could you explain?I don't believe in that at all. I heard that it's not even necessary to have 1 gram per pound of BW. Even 1g per KG of BW will do as well.
July 3, 2013 at 3:17 am #188767
Gl;itch.eMemberProtein in grams should be at least target weight not current weight. Shoot for 160+
Could you explain?I don't believe in that at all. I heard that it's not even necessary to have 1 gram per pound of BW. Even 1g per KG of BW will do as well.
You want to grow right? Makes sense to have more rather than less of the building blocks required. Of course it depends on who you talk to as to how much protein is necessary. Kiefers 1-1.3g per pound is pretty safe, effective and moderate. You could in theory get away with less protein IF your total calories, carbs and fats are high enough to make up for it. But in that scenario youd run the risk of more unnecessary fat gain IMO.A small risk but one worth considering.Split your backload meals up however you want. 80 ULC an 80 in your backload would give you that 160 I mentioned and be just as easy to accomplish.
July 3, 2013 at 3:33 am #188768
Tyler StephensParticipantYea I usually end up getting around that amount anyway due to the cravings I have for protein foods.Last week I averaged 157 grams of protein and 93 grams of fat.
July 3, 2013 at 10:59 am #188769
GnomerParticipantyou do not need much protein to grow muscle.. eating more protein itself will not make you grow faster or anything..
July 3, 2013 at 9:55 pm #188770
Gl;itch.eMemberyou do not need much protein to grow muscle.. eating more protein itself will not make you grow faster or anything..
Beyond a certain point yes. But what is that point? How would you know if you need less or more based on your own physiology? Play it safe and get at least 1g per pound.
July 3, 2013 at 9:58 pm #188771
GnomerParticipantyou do not need much protein to grow muscle.. eating more protein itself will not make you grow faster or anything..
Beyond a certain point yes. But what is that point? How would you know if you need less or more based on your own physiology? Play it safe and get at least 1g per pound.
i'd argue 1g per bodyweight is max you would need.. muscle building is a very slow process unless on anabolics.. forcing a ton of protein isn't going to "move things along" any faster..
July 3, 2013 at 10:00 pm #188772
Gl;itch.eMemberyou do not need much protein to grow muscle.. eating more protein itself will not make you grow faster or anything..
Beyond a certain point yes. But what is that point? How would you know if you need less or more based on your own physiology? Play it safe and get at least 1g per pound.
i'd argue 1g per bodyweight is max you would need.. muscle building is a very slow process unless on anabolics.. forcing a ton of protein isn't going to "move things along" any faster..
Id also argue that 1g per pound of body weight is nothing close to being a ton of protein. Having done upwards of 1.5-2g per pound before 1g is a cake walk that anyone serious about muscle and strength should be able to manage by natural appetite alone.
July 3, 2013 at 10:03 pm #188773
GnomerParticipantyou do not need much protein to grow muscle.. eating more protein itself will not make you grow faster or anything..
Beyond a certain point yes. But what is that point? How would you know if you need less or more based on your own physiology? Play it safe and get at least 1g per pound.
i'd argue 1g per bodyweight is max you would need.. muscle building is a very slow process unless on anabolics.. forcing a ton of protein isn't going to "move things along" any faster..
Id also argue that 1g per pound of body weight is nothing close to being a ton of protein. Having done upwards of 1.5-2g per pound before 1g is a cake walk that anyone serious about muscle and strength should be able to manage by natural appetite alone.
i did 2.5g to 3g per lb for years in my twenties because that's what all the supplement companies and all the silly articles claimed.. it did one thing well.. helped me get way to many calories and put on a good amount of fat
July 3, 2013 at 10:10 pm #188774
Gl;itch.eMemberyou do not need much protein to grow muscle.. eating more protein itself will not make you grow faster or anything..
Beyond a certain point yes. But what is that point? How would you know if you need less or more based on your own physiology? Play it safe and get at least 1g per pound.
i'd argue 1g per bodyweight is max you would need.. muscle building is a very slow process unless on anabolics.. forcing a ton of protein isn't going to "move things along" any faster..
Id also argue that 1g per pound of body weight is nothing close to being a ton of protein. Having done upwards of 1.5-2g per pound before 1g is a cake walk that anyone serious about muscle and strength should be able to manage by natural appetite alone.
i did 2.5g to 3g per lb for years in my twenties because that's what all the supplement companies and all the silly articles claimed.. it did one thing well.. helped me get way to many calories and put on a good amount of fat
I agree. I was my fattest on the anabolic diet. But I also abused the hell out of protein shakes and bad fats to get my protein and calories up. I also thought because I was allowed upto 30g of carb in a day that it was alright to have a quad-stacker burger from burgerking for my afternoon snack.1g per pound makes no one fat.
July 3, 2013 at 10:15 pm #188775
GnomerParticipantyou do not need much protein to grow muscle.. eating more protein itself will not make you grow faster or anything..
Beyond a certain point yes. But what is that point? How would you know if you need less or more based on your own physiology? Play it safe and get at least 1g per pound.
i'd argue 1g per bodyweight is max you would need.. muscle building is a very slow process unless on anabolics.. forcing a ton of protein isn't going to "move things along" any faster..
Id also argue that 1g per pound of body weight is nothing close to being a ton of protein. Having done upwards of 1.5-2g per pound before 1g is a cake walk that anyone serious about muscle and strength should be able to manage by natural appetite alone.
i did 2.5g to 3g per lb for years in my twenties because that's what all the supplement companies and all the silly articles claimed.. it did one thing well.. helped me get way to many calories and put on a good amount of fat
I agree. I was my fattest on the anabolic diet. But I also abused the hell out of protein shakes and bad fats to get my protein and calories up. I also thought because I was allowed upto 30g of carb in a day that it was alright to have a quad-stacker burger from burgerking for my afternoon snack.1g per pound makes no one fat.
i agree 1g per lb of bodyweight is just fine
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