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October 8, 2013 at 1:56 am #9987
zach454KeymasterI know this is kinda lengthy, but I'm looking for advice, greatly appreciate any advice in advance!So I bought carb nite and I've started about 3 weeks ago (weighing in at 184lbs) and the reorientation (11 days total) I lost 8lbs before my 1st carb nite. I felt pretty good I didn't get too tired during that period (maybe with the help of coffee). So the week after my 1st carb nite I gained 3lbs as expected and the day of my carb nite for the 2nd week I was another lb lighter! So I thought awesome I'll keep it up! Then rolls the 3rd week and the day of carb nite and I gained a 1lbs!? So like most have said check my measurements not the scale, and everything I measured on day 1 was the same as now with the exception of my waist being .5inch smaller, but maybe that was just me..?! Now I was tracking my calories and using it to help understand how much Fat/Protien/Carbs I was getting daily. I'm Male, 5'10", 28yrs, and now weigh 177. On my ULC days I average 1600-1800 calories a day, (100-133 Fats, 120-140 Protiens, 0-15 Carbs) NEVER going over 20 carbs a day. By doing this I basically eat every couple of hours which works well for work and usually have a very slight hunger for more food.Here is close to what I eat almost every ULC day, I do mix it up a little bit.http://www.myfitnesspal.com/food/diary/zach454?date=2013-10-02Below are all 3 of my carb nites:Carb Nite #1 = 3873cal, 199 Fat, 133 Protien, 404 Carb. Click link's below to see what I ate on those days:http://www.myfitnesspal.com/food/diary/zach454?date=2013-09-21Carb Nite #2 = 3509cal, 169 Fat, 107 Protien, 426 Carb. (Completely Stuffed!)http://www.myfitnesspal.com/food/diary/zach454?date=2013-09-28Carb Nite #3 = 4635cal, 215 Fat, 103 Protien, 588 Carb. (Completely Stuffed!)http://www.myfitnesspal.com/food/diary/zach454?date=2013-10-05I know my carb nites look pry horrible for most reading this, but a buddy of mine at work says this is what he did and it worked great for him, but he also worked out with a lot of lifting. So since I'm not working out should I change something in my ULC days? or are my Carb Nites just TOO MUCH, or Junk, maybe need more potatoes and such? I was going to try and cut my Fat down to 60-80grams and leave protien between 120-150grams on my ULC days and on my next carb nite cut some of the junk food out and maybe not STUFF myself too full and try that a couple weeks, but maybe there's something else I'm missing that could shorten my learning curve here?Thanks in advance!-Zach
October 8, 2013 at 2:00 am #205009
TCBParticipantIt's not your CN's, it's your ULC days.First thing I'd try is the baseline Carb Nite Solution ratio, which in your case would be appx 175g protein and appx 90-120g fat. Run that for 3-5 weeks. If not working, try flip flopping the ratios by cutting protein down to 100g-ish, and upping fat to 160g-ish. Run that for 3-5 weeks, see if that works.Also, with your CN's, I'd probably lower your fat down a bit. On your actual carb nite, Protein is nearly as important as carbs.
October 8, 2013 at 2:01 am #205010
Richard SchmittModeratorFats should be higher. Around .75g-1g/BW with protein around .8-1g/BW. Since you stated you're not resistance training, not sure why, but your CN need to be a bit more tame unless you plan to properly lift and deplete glycogen stores.
October 9, 2013 at 1:08 am #205011
zach454GuestThanks guys, I will start at the baseline and tame down my carb nites. One more question, if I don't eat enough will that hurt my results, maybe putting me into starvation mode?
October 9, 2013 at 1:55 am #205012
Richard SchmittModeratorSimple answer very much so yes.
October 9, 2013 at 2:51 pm #205013
TCBParticipantSimple answer very much so yes.
+1Basically, if you are way under-eating, you will lose for awhile until your body catches on and downregulates your metabolism to match your intake. That's when you plateau. Then when you bump food back up, your body wants to hold onto as much as it can in order to "survive" through the next "famine" that may come it's way. Kind of similar to how you see figure competitors balloon up after a show, provided they did a crappy show-prep-phase.
October 9, 2013 at 4:04 pm #205014
Brandon D ChristParticipantIn my opinion, I think everything is fine. You are just three weeks into the diet and you gained a random pound on week three. It's probably some water weight which can be from a million different things. You still lost about 5 lbs of fat since starting. Despite what others here have said, your calories on ULC days are not really low. As a matter of fact they are probably around where they should be. If you are hungry, than yes, eat more, but if you are not keep doing what you are doing.
October 9, 2013 at 10:01 pm #205015
Sherylea HurstParticipantWhy is protein as important as carbs on your actual CN?
October 10, 2013 at 12:19 am #205016
Brandon D ChristParticipantWhy is protein as important as carbs on your actual CN?
Protein isn't as important, but it can be useful during Carb Nites because it can prevent you from eating too many carbs, which is something that women and sedentary men should be concerned with. It can help spike insulin too.
October 10, 2013 at 12:37 am #205017
TCBParticipantWhy is protein as important as carbs on your actual CN?
In my defense.. I did say NEARLY as important..However, not in my defense.. I'm an idiot! and typed CN, but was thinking CBL in my head. :-But. I'd still say protein on a CN is important.. I believe the book says something about muscle-sparing and to include sources of protein throughout the evening.
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