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November 1, 2012 at 1:19 am #93029
Big_RParticipantI wound up doing two ELECT sets of 5x3 of this exercise yesterday because I just couldn't feel anything with it. Thoughts? Today my shoulders do feel like I worked them out. Thoughts. Has anyone replaced this exercise? Does it have some magic to it that I'm not aware of. Thanks.
I never recommend this exercise because 99.9% of the time i see it done people are not doing it right or they just aren't stimulating there back. Personally if your getting shoulder soreness, i would do a row with a neutral wide-grip or barbell rowing towards the groin area. If you can focus on contracting statically for 2 seconds and lowering the weight slowly you will see results, i gauran-damn-tee it.
The 1/2 upright row is a move for delts, not backs.
What is A "1/2" Upright ROw?
November 1, 2012 at 1:23 am #93030
Trevor G FullbrightModeratorDo you know what a barbell upright row is?Traditionally you use a rather close grip on a barbell and pull it up to your chin, but it's horrid for your shoulders. SW calls for DB 1/2 upright rows, hold the DB out to the side, and pull up to around nipple level. Once you get it right it's great for delts.
November 1, 2012 at 1:48 am #93031
Big_RParticipantDo you know what a barbell upright row is?Traditionally you use a rather close grip on a barbell and pull it up to your chin, but it's horrid for your shoulders. SW calls for DB 1/2 upright rows, hold the DB out to the side, and pull up to around nipple level. Once you get it right it's great for delts.
I Said Pull To The Groin For A Reason. The Rhomboids Aren't The Largest Part Of The Back So Naturally On A Higher Pull(To The Chest) You Would Recruit More DelTs. Also You should Be Bent Over A Lot More If pulling That High (Unless You Are Stupid). If You Bent Over SLIGHTLY And Pull to the groin as stated You activate the lower Lats By Focusing In On Pinching. Also Unlike A High Pull For The Rhomboids When Targeting The LaTs You Don't Want The Elbows Pointed Outward But Rather Locked To The Sides.
November 1, 2012 at 2:04 am #93032
Trevor G FullbrightModeratorA upright row is a totally different movement though, it's not a back movement. You are trying to hit delts with it, not lats, not rhoms, not traps (although many people pull them in)Kiefer recommends only pulling it up to nipple left to protect shoulder. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=auXZ45HYoz8&feature=plcp
November 1, 2012 at 3:00 am #93034
Big_RParticipantOh Fuck, I'm Replying To The Wrong Post… I Thought This Was About DeaD Lifting Substitute…. My Bad Lol. Yeah My Advise Was Headed Toward Back Training. I Really Hate Responding From My Phone.. I Can't See shit
November 1, 2012 at 3:14 am #93033
Damon AmatoParticipantI wound up doing two ELECT sets of 5x3 of this exercise yesterday because I just couldn't feel anything with it. Thoughts? Today my shoulders do feel like I worked them out. Thoughts. Has anyone replaced this exercise? Does it have some magic to it that I'm not aware of. Thanks.
I never recommend this exercise because 99.9% of the time i see it done people are not doing it right or they just aren't stimulating there back. Personally if your getting shoulder soreness, i would do a row with a neutral wide-grip or barbell rowing towards the groin area. If you can focus on contracting statically for 2 seconds and lowering the weight slowly you will see results, i gauran-damn-tee it.
The 1/2 upright row is a move for delts, not backs.
thank god, I was scrolling down hoping someone would say this.
November 1, 2012 at 12:54 pm #93035
pshannonMemberOh Fuck, I'm Replying To The Wrong Post... I Thought This Was About DeaD Lifting Substitute.... My Bad Lol. Yeah My Advise Was Headed Toward Back Training. I Really Hate Responding From My Phone.. I Can't See shit
I was seriously concerned about you until this comment.
November 1, 2012 at 1:03 pm #93036
Brandon D ChristParticipantYea I was thinking “damn and I thought BigR knew his shit”.
November 1, 2012 at 1:10 pm #93037
pshannonMemberI'm honestly surprised that Kiefer even included this exercise. Granted it is 1 armed and half the ROM, but it still leaves a lot of room for error and injury.
November 1, 2012 at 1:18 pm #93038
Brandon D ChristParticipantI'm honestly surprised that Kiefer even included this exercise. Granted it is 1 armed and half the ROM, but it still leaves a lot of room for error and injury.
I agree it is rather difficult to do correctly. I was never a fan of upright rows to begin with.
November 1, 2012 at 1:23 pm #93039
pshannonMemberI'm honestly surprised that Kiefer even included this exercise. Granted it is 1 armed and half the ROM, but it still leaves a lot of room for error and injury.
I agree it is rather difficult to do correctly. I was never a fan of upright rows to begin with.
I always agreed with you that everyone can use more trap work, and shurgs are the ultimate.
November 1, 2012 at 1:26 pm #93040
Brandon D ChristParticipantHang snatches are also awesome for traps as well, something I got from reading Jim Wendler.
November 1, 2012 at 1:40 pm #93041
pshannonMemberHang snatches are also awesome for traps as well, something I got from reading Jim Wendler.
Agreed, or reeves deadlits, but these are both very advanced movements. Some people dont know what a 1/2 1 arm upright DB row is! We can't expect them to know how to snatch properly while activating their traps.
November 1, 2012 at 1:45 pm #93042
Big_RParticipantYea I was thinking "damn and I thought BigR knew his shit".
funny because i was scratching my head thinking me and trevor are usually on the same book and page about 99% of this stuff LOL I'm glad my smart phone could make me look like a complete asshole!
November 1, 2012 at 1:48 pm #93043
guitarslinger16ParticipantQuote from: guitarslinger16 on October 31, 2012, 12:51:45 pmhow do you do this exercise. i cant find a video anywhere. thank you.really?http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3RNrRWMlbO4&feature=relateddo half. sorry i found it after i posted this. sorry for the ignorance
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