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In the book, kiefer says you can eat multiple carb laden meals after your workout… However in his interview with Sean Hansen, he stated that only in the two hours post workout it is impossible for the carbs to become fat…http://www.seanhyson.com/blog/backloading-interview-w-kiefer-part-iiiFirst questio: since he recommends waiting an hour after training before eating, that would only leave a one hour feasting time fat free... So how can we eat so many carbs beyond this point?My second question is this? If you going to eat something like ice cream or dessert as part of your CBL, should it be closer to first meal (6pm) or last meal (10pm)? Thanks guys
I can't really comment on the first question but as for ice cream. I'd have it later in the evening.
I can't really comment on the first question but as for ice cream. I'd have it later in the evening.
I thought it was opposite of that, so that your insulin isn't elevated (by the fat) as you're going to bed. Also, why wait an hour PWO to eat?
The non fat storing window is not quite that important for our purposes, what's more important is the total time eating carbs that night and keeping that short enough so as to not upregulate the glycolytic cycle.At the time of back loading, your body is primed to refill muscle glycogen stores but not fill fat cells with carbohydrates because there are no enzymes to allow it to do that.
Sooo…. Cookies at 6pm or 10? Or doesent matter?
The non fat storing window is not quite that important for our purposes, what's more important is the total time eating carbs that night and keeping that short enough so as to not upregulate the glycolytic cycle.At the time of back loading, your body is primed to refill muscle glycogen stores but not fill fat cells with carbohydrates because there are no enzymes to allow it to do that.
So in practical terms, how short/long is this window?If you have a pwo shake right after your workout, the next meal an hour later... how much longer can you go on with all the junk?
The only reason I have for this, is when Kiefer actually did my diet for one of the days I had a burger and fries for dinner and then ice cream before bed.
The non fat storing window is not quite that important for our purposes, what's more important is the total time eating carbs that night and keeping that short enough so as to not upregulate the glycolytic cycle.At the time of back loading, your body is primed to refill muscle glycogen stores but not fill fat cells with carbohydrates because there are no enzymes to allow it to do that.
So in practical terms, how short/long is this window?If you have a pwo shake right after your workout, the next meal an hour later... how much longer can you go on with all the junk?
Agreed with D here. Kiefer is simply stating from the studies he has read it is very hard to store any fat during that 2 hour window. But in the whole scheme of things it is MUCH more important to hit the nightly target amount of carbs.The actual window would vary on the person's schedule and other factors. I would say if you train at 5pm, get done at 6, and begin backloading at 6:30, you could go until 10:30. Again this is speaking from what I have found works for me. Kiefer has told me there has been times he has eaten until he has just passed out for the night....obviously it is working for him.The whole point of this is to pick a time frame that works for you, give it an honest shot for 3 to 4 weeks, evaluate the results, and adjust from there (if you need to)
Agreed with D here. Kiefer is simply stating from the studies he has read it is very hard to store any fat during that 2 hour window. But in the whole scheme of things it is MUCH more important to hit the nightly target amount of carbs.The actual window would vary on the person's schedule and other factors. I would say if you train at 5pm, get done at 6, and begin backloading at 6:30, you could go until 10:30. Again this is speaking from what I have found works for me. Kiefer has told me there has been times he has eaten until he has just passed out for the night....obviously it is working for him.The whole point of this is to pick a time frame that works for you, give it an honest shot for 3 to 4 weeks, evaluate the results, and adjust from there (if you need to)
What I have been doing is having a whey+dextrose shake right after the workout. It takes me anywhere between 30-45 minutes to get home from the gym, so I usually end up eating about an hour after I finish my workout anyway. After that, I sometimes struggle with consuming all the food I'm supposed to, so unfortunately I keep eating late into the night.When work gets hectic, I don't get to the gym until around 7-7:30pm, so my CBL start around 9pm on those days. I know, it's way too late...
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