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I am glad I found this, I was just asking Tomahawk about it. I was going to try to fit my carbs into a 4 hour window which seems reasonable to me. One of the other guys mentioned the window of opportunity where fat is less likely to be stored from the glycogen intake. One thing to consider is that as long as there is room for the glycogen in the muscle that is where it is going to go. Glycogen takes another conversion to be stored as fat and your body does not start trying to convert it until your glycogen stores are full. So I wouldn't worry too much about the window being too specific.I am one of the people who will be trying to do this now with morning training, so I am planning on doing some calisthenics to try to get a little exercise induced GLUT4 translocation. My plan is like 100 push ups, 100 jump squats or burpees before beginning the CBL. I know it wont do the same thing as a full on lift but hopefully it will help a little.
Why's that late? As long as you get all your carbs, that's what counts.
That's exactly why. When I start that late, I usually don't get them all..
In that case, you just need to be smart about it 😉Don't be afraid of dirty foods and remember, the more viscous the foods you eat are, the easier they are to go down.
Tonight, I had a veggie burger, cinnamon rolls with almond milk, a pint of ice cream and a container of cottage cheese. I think I'm gonna die right now… seriously.
The main goal of the backload is what? To get CARBS in. Hands down this is the most important factor. With that being said you wasted a large portion of the room in your stomach with cottage cheese and that veggie burger. I have trouble getting in the required carbs as well and have found that to get the carbs and protein I need I stick with powder to save that much more room for the carbs.
That veggie burger was mainly carbs (15g protein, 73g carbs).As far as cottage cheese, I was told that I definitely shouldn't eat it during ULC part of the day (as it will spike insulin) and that its fine for CBL. I thought that's what we want after a workout, right?
Tanner, do you try to eat most of protein and fat BEFORE your workout? That way you can focus on carbs during backload? I'm generally not that hungry early in the day so to meet my requirements, I need to eat all 3 (carbs, protein, fat) when I'm done lifting. Is it something I should change?
I made the mistake of undereating quite a bit during the ULC portion of the day. When I started with Kiefer he had me eating ALOT more protein and fat during the day. It was surely an adjustment and took some time to get used to (as I was not very hungry) but I am bigger, stronger, and leaner for it now. You still need to get protein in during your backload so like I had suggested before, if you CAN get the required amount of carbs in along with eating cottage cheese for protein then go for it. If you are having a tough time then switch to protein powder. Everyone is different but I am speaking from what I have found works best for me and the limited amount of time I have to ingest carbs PWO.
I made the mistake of undereating quite a bit during the ULC portion of the day.
This is definitely my problem.There is no other time I can eat cottage cheese, unfortunately. Also, curious why you thought the veggie burger was a bad choice.Thanks for your help.
I made the mistake of undereating quite a bit during the ULC portion of the day.
This is definitely my problem.There is no other time I can eat cottage cheese, unfortunately. Also, curious why you thought the veggie burger was a bad choice.Thanks for your help.
Mainly because its unmanly :). If it has 73 grams of carbs and you enjoy eating it then go for it. If I had a choice between a turnover or sweet potato vs. a veggie burger I wouldn't choose the latter, but to each his own.Do you NEED to eat cottage cheese? I am not sure what you mean by saying that is the only time you can eat it. I agree you should avoid it in the ULC part of the day, but if by eliminating the cottage cheese at night you open up some room to grab 100g of extra carbs in (if you need to fit more in that is) then I say why not?
Wouldn't a lot of the carbs in a veggie burger be fiber…? Be a fat kid, ditch the veggies in your backload
Mainly because its unmanly :).
Hahahahaha... I am one unmanly man then ;D
If it has 73 grams of carbs and you enjoy eating it then go for it. If I had a choice between a turnover or sweet potato vs. a veggie burger I wouldn't choose the latter, but to each his own.
Yeah, I really enjoy this particular one. Also, I usually do have a sweet potato and some pastries. YEsterday, I wanted to try ice cream instead of the potato (for a change). When you have ice cream, do you go for a full fat or reduced fat/frozen yogurt?
Do you NEED to eat cottage cheese? I am not sure what you mean by saying that is the only time you can eat it. I agree you should avoid it in the ULC part of the day, but if by eliminating the cottage cheese at night you open up some room to grab 100g of extra carbs in (if you need to fit more in that is) then I say why not?
I do need to eat it. That's how I meet my protein requirements (I know, very unmanly 😉 ) What I meant by that is that since I can't eat it during ULC, the only time I can eat it is after a workout. I need to start eating more protein before I get to the gym. The way I eat now, I still have a lot of it left to consume AFTER my workout. Based on your experience, it's better to get most of protein and fat out of the way before lifting, so you can focus on carbs during backloading.. right?
Wouldn't a lot of the carbs in a veggie burger be fiber...? Be a fat kid, ditch the veggies in your backload
It's a potato spinach patty, but I was counting on the bun as a good carb source. Mainly though.. it's just delicious!!
I need to start eating more protein before I get to the gym. The way I eat now, I still have a lot of it left to consume AFTER my workout. Based on your experience, it's better to get most of protein and fat out of the way before lifting, so you can focus on carbs during backloading.. right?
It is important to get a large portion of your protein intake during the ULC of the day yes. You still need to ingest some on the backload, and if cottage cheese works for you then have at it. I was just stating that if the volume of cottage cheese inhibits the amount of carbs you need to get in, powder would be the logical choice.As far as the ice cream goes, people may have differing opinions but I have found I feel tighter after pounding some ben and jerrys vs. some triple low fat bunny foo foo organic rice cream 🙂
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