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February 13, 2014 at 7:27 pm #10699
Janelle FustonMemberI have read in a couple of different places that while doing CBL you should be adding salt to your water? If this is correct, does it matter if you add it to your food rather then putting it in something you drink? Or for the proper effect and benefit, does it need to be added to water? With all the cheddar cheese and bacon I have been consuming..my sodium intake is fairly high and maybe would like to avoid added more in if its not necessary ๐ฎAny insight on this would be greatly appreciated!
February 13, 2014 at 7:30 pm #214040
SpatzModeratorI personally salt my workout water with pink Himalayan and notice it helps through my workouts. I had been getting nauseous during HIIT workouts and just by adding salt to my water cleared that right up in a matter of about 5 minutes. I had also felt I was getting in enough sodium to not worry about salting my water, but I've noticed improvements in hydration now that I have started. I don't generally salt my water unless I'm working out.
February 13, 2014 at 7:41 pm #214041
Brandon D ChristParticipantI have read in a couple of different places that while doing CBL you should be adding salt to your water? If this is correct, does it matter if you add it to your food rather then putting it in something you drink? Or for the proper effect and benefit, does it need to be added to water? With all the cheddar cheese and bacon I have been consuming..my sodium intake is fairly high and maybe would like to avoid added more in if its not necessary ๐ฎAny insight on this would be greatly appreciated!
You shouldn't need to do this unless you are showing signs of sodium depletion like lethargy, cramps, weakness, ect.
February 13, 2014 at 7:50 pm #214042
SpatzModeratorYou shouldn't need to do this unless you are showing signs of sodium depletion like lethargy, cramps, weakness, ect.
Ah yes, see, I was also feeling cramping in the middle of my HIIT workouts, so the addition of sodium helped with that tremendously.
February 13, 2014 at 8:32 pm #214043
Gl;itch.eMemberI have read in a couple of different places that while doing CBL you should be adding salt to your water? If this is correct, does it matter if you add it to your food rather then putting it in something you drink? Or for the proper effect and benefit, does it need to be added to water? With all the cheddar cheese and bacon I have been consuming..my sodium intake is fairly high and maybe would like to avoid added more in if its not necessary ๐ฎAny insight on this would be greatly appreciated!
You shouldn't need to do this unless you are showing signs of sodium depletion like lethargy, cramps, weakness, ect.
It's probably less necessary the more carb feedings you have. The more low carb you go the better off you'll probably be with added sodium. So CNS youd definitely want to be salting everything and adding it to water/drinks. CBL you could probably get away with a little less salt. The more water you drink the more need for sodium too. Drinking too much unmineralised (read: salted) hypotonic water and drinks is a great way to crush metabolism. If you cut back on unnecessary water you wont need to add so much salt. If you are pissing all the time its pretty obvious you are drinking too much. Drinking tons of water is one of those dumb health myths that needs to die. Adding salt to all my fluids has been one of the best health moves I've made in recent years. Massive help. And unless you are on some weird medication or have some kind of strange reaction to sodium theres no reason to worry about getting too much. Taking addequate sodium can help by turning down aldosterone and low aldosterone decreases VEGF (vascular endothelial growth factor). VEGF which allows capillaries to become leaky in order to produce new blood vessels also allows the water that should be contained within cells to leak out producing various forms of Edema. Women take note: Extra salt (sodium) especially around "that time of month" can help with cramping, bloating etc.Sodium also helps to increase metabolic rate. Something every dieter should be attempting to keep high.
February 13, 2014 at 8:40 pm #214044
Brandon D ChristParticipantI have read in a couple of different places that while doing CBL you should be adding salt to your water? If this is correct, does it matter if you add it to your food rather then putting it in something you drink? Or for the proper effect and benefit, does it need to be added to water? With all the cheddar cheese and bacon I have been consuming..my sodium intake is fairly high and maybe would like to avoid added more in if its not necessary ๐ฎAny insight on this would be greatly appreciated!
You shouldn't need to do this unless you are showing signs of sodium depletion like lethargy, cramps, weakness, ect.
It's probably less necessary the more carb feedings you have. The more low carb you go the better off you'll probably be with added sodium. So CNS youd definitely want to be salting everything and adding it to water/drinks. CBL you could probably get away with a little less salt. The more water you drink the more need for sodium too. Drinking too much unmineralised (read: salted) hypotonic water and drinks is a great way to crush metabolism. If you cut back on unnecessary water you wont need to add so much salt. If you are pissing all the time its pretty obvious you are drinking too much. Drinking tons of water is one of those dumb health myths that needs to die. Adding salt to all my fluids has been one of the best health moves I've made in recent years. Massive help. And unless you are on some weird medication or have some kind of strange reaction to sodium theres no reason to worry about getting too much. Taking addequate sodium can help by turning down aldosterone and low aldosterone decreases VEGF (vascular endothelial growth factor). VEGF which allows capillaries to become leaky in order to produce new blood vessels also allows the water that should be contained within cells to leak out producing various forms of Edema. Women take note: Extra salt (sodium) especially around "that time of month" can help with cramping, bloating etc.Sodium also helps to increase metabolic rate. Something every dieter should be attempting to keep high.
Unless you are deficient, I highly doubt drinking salt water will make a difference.
February 13, 2014 at 8:43 pm #214045
Janelle FustonMemberThat's super interesting..I was unaware salt played such a key role and can impact how you feel or perform. Thank you for sharing that!I'll be getting some of that pink salt to have on hand ๐I'm on day 8 of my 10 day reorientation, with the intent to follow the CBL: SA protocol, and just want to do my best to follow along with what seems to work best. Health wise and whats most effective.
February 13, 2014 at 8:57 pm #214046
Tracy JarchowParticipantHere is an interesting podcast about salt.http://www.bulletproofexec.com/podcast-44-salt-and-self-experimentation-with-greg-pomerantz/
February 13, 2014 at 9:25 pm #214047
Tim D GeislerParticipantI have read in a couple of different places that while doing CBL you should be adding salt to your water? If this is correct, does it matter if you add it to your food rather then putting it in something you drink? Or for the proper effect and benefit, does it need to be added to water? With all the cheddar cheese and bacon I have been consuming..my sodium intake is fairly high and maybe would like to avoid added more in if its not necessary ๐ฎAny insight on this would be greatly appreciated!
You shouldn't need to do this unless you are showing signs of sodium depletion like lethargy, cramps, weakness, ect.
It's probably less necessary the more carb feedings you have. The more low carb you go the better off you'll probably be with added sodium. So CNS youd definitely want to be salting everything and adding it to water/drinks. CBL you could probably get away with a little less salt. The more water you drink the more need for sodium too. Drinking too much unmineralised (read: salted) hypotonic water and drinks is a great way to crush metabolism. If you cut back on unnecessary water you wont need to add so much salt. If you are pissing all the time its pretty obvious you are drinking too much. Drinking tons of water is one of those dumb health myths that needs to die. Adding salt to all my fluids has been one of the best health moves I've made in recent years. Massive help. And unless you are on some weird medication or have some kind of strange reaction to sodium theres no reason to worry about getting too much. Taking addequate sodium can help by turning down aldosterone and low aldosterone decreases VEGF (vascular endothelial growth factor). VEGF which allows capillaries to become leaky in order to produce new blood vessels also allows the water that should be contained within cells to leak out producing various forms of Edema. Women take note: Extra salt (sodium) especially around "that time of month" can help with cramping, bloating etc.Sodium also helps to increase metabolic rate. Something every dieter should be attempting to keep high.
Unless you are deficient, I highly doubt drinking salt water will make a difference.
obviously I havent done any research on this, but I could throw a stab in the dark saying typically carbohydrates, or glycogen to be more specific, hold a tremendous amount of water approximately 1:3+ ratio.ย But if you are depleted you wont have this water buffer, and sodium probably creates a similar response.ย I would say has to do with dehydration.ย I can tell you that potassium(low carb in conjunction with clen) depleted cramps are without a doubt the most painful thing i've ever felt without sustaining injury.
February 13, 2014 at 9:28 pm #214048
Gl;itch.eMemberUnless you are deficient, I highly doubt drinking salt water will make a difference.
Have you tried? It truly does. Lots of strange things improved for me when I added salt to all fluids and made the change away from drinking too much water. Little things like rashes disappearing, overall skin quality improving, less dry skin and softer skin on feet. Some small varicose/spider veins on my leg that Ive had for years disappeared! I get up once a night to pee compared to 2-3 times. If I wasn't backloading I swear Id sleep through the night without waking. If I restrict my backloading foods to lower water content I can usually do this, but after a workout I do feel the need for some extra fluid. Im not talking about a ton of salt like drinking the ocean. But about a half tsp per litre or so. A few twists of a grinder in a cup of coffee. That sort of thing. You can try more "unpleasant" solutions at times where you might need a boost of sodium. I've killed horrendous headaches with a fairly stronger saline solution. Sodium in larger amounts helps to lower adrenaline so can be used pre-bed if someone is having trouble getting to sleep. And so on and so forth.
February 13, 2014 at 9:31 pm #214049
Gl;itch.eMemberThat's super interesting..I was unaware salt played such a key role and can impact how you feel or perform. Thank you for sharing that!I'll be getting some of that pink salt to have on hand ๐I'm on day 8 of my 10 day reorientation, with the intent to follow the CBL: SA protocol, and just want to do my best to follow along with what seems to work best. Health wise and whats most effective.
Id actually advise against Himalayan salt though to be honest. Too much Iron. That might be alright for seasoning food every now and then, but Regular sea salt is best for the majority of salt use IMO. Women (as well as men) generally dont need the extra Iron contrary to popular opinion but thats a whole other topic! (;
February 13, 2014 at 10:26 pm #214050
Janelle FustonMemberI listened to that podcast and got some useful info, thanks for posting that. Its crazy that guy is his own guinea pig!I just got a new thing of sea salt from costco the other day so that's perfect if you suggest it works better ๐ I'll save the iron for the gymย ๐the water to carbs ratio makes sense..great explanation for why its so easy to fill out when mowing down on carbsย ๐ ๐ Its clear, i feel like, myself along with many others..have a misguided view, possibly even fear of salt. I rarely ever add salt to anything that didn't already call for it in the recipe. (i.e. shake salt all over my already high sodium laden food) it honestly makes me cringe to see people douse their food in it.. and I usually give them sh*t for doing so.BUT I am open minded and science is science. I'm learning so much already from this forum! Here's to salted coffee and H20 ๐
February 13, 2014 at 10:41 pm #214051
Gl;itch.eMemberI listened to that podcast and got some useful info, thanks for posting that. Its crazy that guy is his own guinea pig!I just got a new thing of sea salt from costco the other day so that's perfect if you suggest it works better ๐ I'll save the iron for the gymย ๐the water to carbs ratio makes sense..great explanation for why its so easy to fill out when mowing down on carbsย ๐ ๐ Its clear, i feel like, myself along with many others..have a misguided view, possibly even fear of salt. I rarely ever add salt to anything that didn't already call for it in the recipe. (i.e. shake salt all over my already high sodium laden food) it honestly makes me cringe to see people douse their food in it.. and I usually give them sh*t for doing so.
Just add it to the burgeoning list of things they told us were bad that are actually good!
BUT I am open minded and science is science. I'm learning so much already from this forum! Here's to salted coffee and H20 ๐
The idea for salt restriction basically came from pregenancy and water issues. They recommended diuretics and salt restriction when simply adding salt to the diet would have been better and more natural. Many needless complications and deaths could have been avoided. If you are interested check out the works of Dr Tom Brewer.
"Margaret Robinson, an OB/GYN doctor in London at St. Thomas Hospital, showed us how important dietary salt is for human pregnancy to maintain the health of mother, baby, and placenta. (See the graph Salt in Pregnancy.) She found that salt tablets would usually relieve leg cramps in pregnancy and that depriving women of salt led to an infant death rate twice as high as that observed in women encouraged to eat salt during pregnancy. "
February 14, 2014 at 4:05 pm #214052
samuel r walkerParticipantWhat would u consider too much water?
February 14, 2014 at 4:10 pm #214053
Brandon D ChristParticipantWhat would u consider too much water?
I can't really say what is too much water, but I never understood the "drink a massive amount of water for optimal health either".ย People have died from drinking too much water.If I had to guess, I would just say drink to satisfy thirst.
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