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Curious if you can eat too much easily on this diet? Im talking about during the week food. Tons of fat and coming from beef, pork, cheese, heavy whipping cream, eggs, butter you name it. I know im not taking in a 1:1 ratio, my fat is higher for sure. Im esentially doing this like the anabolic diet during the week and then starting my carbnite about 4 P.M sunday and going NUTS. Im just wondering if CNS or CBL SA would be better for me, because i just seem to be eating SO much on CNS.
I eat tons too. Just try to make sure you're getting super now carbs, also avoid anything like gluten and dairy you could possibly be intolerant to
I think im seeing results, to be honest though im not sure how given how many calories i have to be taking in. Its only been like 3 weeks on CNS so i cant make a solid judgement. I dont eat much dairy besides the cream and some cheese, i eat a ton of animal fats. And yes my carbs are very low, no more than 30g a day coming from pretty much just greens.
Ive just always loved me some PWO carbs, been juggling the decision to CBL or CNS for a while now. Dont want to halt fat loss but always want to do things to benefit strength and recovery.
Don't worry about calories! Have you seen any of my progress pics? I'm tiny, and I probably eat more calories than you. I pushed 4,500 yesterday (ULC day) and woke up this morning feeling lean and hungry (usually I think it's more like 2000-2500, but just sayin').
Idk man, im bout 5″11 and 280lbs. I havent calculated it in a while but im prob taking in give or take 400 grams of fat a day
Idk man, im bout 5"11 and 280lbs. I havent calculated it in a while but im prob taking in give or take 400 grams of fat a day
What is your lean weight?Eat 0.8 - 1.3g x your lean bodyweight in protein, and keep fats equal to that. It is okay to go over 1:1, in favor of fats, but if you begin taking in routine, extreme calorie excesses, and your body is NOT using / needing those excesses, you will stall. This is why the eat until satiated concept fails for some, b/c they don't know their body well enough to listen correctly. For those people, I recommend following a base meal plan, and then eating on top of that IF they really need it.Pigging out on CN like it's the end of the world should be fine. That is only once a week. Drop that back only if you see it causing you to stall.I would suggest getting yourself down to 10-15% bodyfat before moving to CBL. I, for instance, won't move to CBL until I am firmly @ 10%. CBL is far slower for fat loss, by-and-large.Cory
Im really not sure my lean weight, i power lift man so ive never needed or wanted to know such things. Thats the only reason i entertain the idea of CBL because of performance reasons. And yes im positive im taking in too many calories but gah man i cant stand being hungry. Also does anyone else have any trouble sleeping with fats too close to bed?
Er, I could imagine that power-lifting on CNS might not really work all that well. I know that I couldn't climb 4x a week on CNS, had to switch to CBL SA. Now I've cut climbing back to 2x a week it's ok to do CNS.
Im really not sure my lean weight, i power lift man so ive never needed or wanted to know such things. Thats the only reason i entertain the idea of CBL because of performance reasons. And yes im positive im taking in too many calories but gah man i cant stand being hungry. Also does anyone else have any trouble sleeping with fats too close to bed?
Perhaps CBL SA would be best for you, only b/c you are not concerned with your lean weight, moreso performance. You will still drop fat on CBL SA, just a bit slower than CNS.You definitely shouldn't be hungry... so, eat until satiated, but not beyond. This is the part that is tricky for most people (listening to their bodies properly).As for fats before bed, I go to bed 1-2 hours after my final meal (which is consequently better for supplements like ZMAs)... don't have any issues with that to be able to comment on.Cory
Yeah i mean dont get me wrong, i wouldnt mind being shredded but its not top of the list. With CBL SA you still eat the same fats and food as CNS right? Just obviously carb loading at night is the only difference? And does a training session have to be a major one to CBL or can you CBL even on like a touch up day? Also going from CNS to CBL SA would i need to do the 10 day prep? I know carb choices play a big role on CBL SA, can you have cereal, pasta breads things like that or only a specific type of carbs? Weighing what i do as well im not sure i would know where to start out as far as how many carbs to take in.
Yeah i mean dont get me wrong, i wouldnt mind being shredded but its not top of the list. With CBL SA you still eat the same fats and food as CNS right? Just obviously carb loading at night is the only difference? And does a training session have to be a major one to CBL or can you CBL even on like a touch up day? Also going from CNS to CBL SA would i need to do the 10 day prep? I know carb choices play a big role on CBL SA, can you have cereal, pasta breads things like that or only a specific type of carbs? Weighing what i do as well im not sure i would know where to start out as far as how many carbs to take in.
1. Yes, 1:1 ratio (fats:proteins), with back-loads on the nights you train, including a high-carb post-workout shake. First back-load meal should be high-carb, high-protein, low-fat. The rest are what you enjoy, just keep intaking protein to meet your daily quota. CBL on all days you resistance train. Eat as much as your body needs. Stop 1-2 hours before bed so you don't disrupt GH. Fast, as usual, for 12 hours from when you stop eating. ULC should still be under 30g usable carbs, preferably under 10g.2. Coming from CNS, you won't need to prep for CBL.3. Stick with foods rich in FAST carbs... candies, dextrose shakes, pastries, etc.4. How much weight did you lose during your CNS prep? With that you can roughly determine your back-load amount (for carbs). If you wake tight, full and hard... you did it right. If you wake bloated, really wet, etc. -- you need to scale back some on carbs.Cory
Ok, so still being at a higher BF% i shouldnt have a bulking effect from SA right? And it needs to be high glycemic carbs, what about like some mac n cheese? Just no complex carbs. And so when CBL that doesnt mean straight up strictly just carbs? It means still take in protein? And i would be good to start this week like tomorrow even though i had carb nite sunday night? Sorry for all the questions, i have both books i just think certain things are too vague.
Ok, so still being at a higher BF% i shouldnt have a bulking effect from SA right? And it needs to be high glycemic carbs, what about like some mac n cheese? Just no complex carbs. And so when CBL that doesnt mean straight up strictly just carbs? It means still take in protein? And i would be good to start this week like tomorrow even though i had carb nite sunday night? Sorry for all the questions, i have both books i just think certain things are too vague.
No worries about the questions. 🙂The problem with mac n' cheese is the gluten, it can cause inflammation, bloating and stall weight loss in some people. Otherwise, if you are not too gluten-sensitive, mac n' cheese is fine in later back-load meal(s), not the first -- too high-fat.You still take in protein, b/c you need to meet your daily quota (i.e., 0.8 - 1.3g protein / lean lb. weight).Go ahead and start now. Go full ULC on non-training days! SA doesn't tend to fatten people, DB can (a little). That is if you are doing it right.Cory
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