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Okay, first off, I own both books, have read both books, and I've watched and read Kiefer's opinion on which program works for which people. That being said, I'm enjoying CNS, but am starting to have less and less workouts where I walk out of the gym holding my head high because I feel like I killed it. A little about me, I used to weight app. 350 many years ago, and have maintained a 100lb weight loss for the better part of 7 years (almost entirely attributed to low carb style dieting). I am a very experienced lifter, training 5-6 times a week and doing HIIT 2-3 times a week. I am somewhere in the 17-20% bodyfat range and that's pretty much been the case for a long time no matter what I do. I am seeing SOME fat loss results with CNS, and I hold almost no water in the tissue, which I am very pleased with. However, pure fat loss isn't my only goal. I want to make some gains in muscle and strength in the gym as much I want abs. So, FROM PEOPLE WHO HAVE REAL WORLD RESULTS, which program do you personally think I should be doing? I want no more fat gain, and would like to see some new PRs in the weight room. From people who have had an "average" body type, have you personally lost fat and gained muscle with CBL? I don't feel like I've lost very much strength or muscle with CNS, but I certainly haven't gained any either. I think it might be time to make the switch.
Have you considered a modified CNS with 2 CN's a week?
I was considering backloading with a max of 3 times per week with heavier lifting. But at that point, I don't believe it's really CNS.
Have you considered a modified CNS with 2 CN's a week?
I was considering backloading with a max of 3 times per week with heavier lifting. But at that point, I don't believe it's really CNS.
Agreed on that. You might do well using CBach's transition model.. He's basically going from 1CN to 2 for awhile, then to 3, I believe. Maybe he'll pop his head in here and outline it.. He did in another thread, but can't remember which, ha.EDIT: Aha.. It was this one. http://athlete.io/forum/index.php?topic=16472.msg177226#msg177226 You could easily extend it out too. If after 2 weeks of 2CN/wk you start noticing progress going in the right direction, ride that til it stops. Then bump to 3/wk. Could also be said that CBL was designed to add mass without adding fat, so just jump in and do CBL, ha.. Totally individual.
Have you considered a modified CNS with 2 CN's a week?
I was considering backloading with a max of 3 times per week with heavier lifting. But at that point, I don't believe it's really CNS.
Agreed on that. You might do well using CBach's transition model.. He's basically going from 1CN to 2 for awhile, then to 3, I believe. Maybe he'll pop his head in here and outline it.. He did in another thread, but can't remember which, ha.
Thanks! I'll try to search that one out.
Have you considered a modified CNS with 2 CN's a week?
I was considering backloading with a max of 3 times per week with heavier lifting. But at that point, I don't believe it's really CNS.
Agreed on that. You might do well using CBach's transition model.. He's basically going from 1CN to 2 for awhile, then to 3, I believe. Maybe he'll pop his head in here and outline it.. He did in another thread, but can't remember which, ha.EDIT: Aha.. It was this one. http://athlete.io/forum/index.php?topic=16472.msg177226#msg177226 You could easily extend it out too. If after 2 weeks of 2CN/wk you start noticing progress going in the right direction, ride that til it stops. Then bump to 3/wk. Could also be said that CBL was designed to add mass without adding fat, so just jump in and do CBL, ha.. Totally individual.
Many thanks. I'll check that out and make some adjustments as necessary. Maybe do a CN on Leg and Back day and ULC it on the rest.
Have you considered a modified CNS with 2 CN's a week?
I was considering backloading with a max of 3 times per week with heavier lifting. But at that point, I don't believe it's really CNS.
Agreed on that. You might do well using CBach's transition model.. He's basically going from 1CN to 2 for awhile, then to 3, I believe. Maybe he'll pop his head in here and outline it.. He did in another thread, but can't remember which, ha.EDIT: Aha.. It was this one. http://athlete.io/forum/index.php?topic=16472.msg177226#msg177226 You could easily extend it out too. If after 2 weeks of 2CN/wk you start noticing progress going in the right direction, ride that til it stops. Then bump to 3/wk. Could also be said that CBL was designed to add mass without adding fat, so just jump in and do CBL, ha.. Totally individual.
"Pops Head In"- 😉Yea Im going for a Two a Week for a few weeks. Keeping it to a 2x LBM in carbs and a .5g fat: 1gLBM. Backload days will be Standard Operating Procedure for CBL SA. and ULC days, well ULC. Example of what Ill be implementing is Sunday-OFF/ULCMonday-Chest-Tricep/BLTuesday-Legs/ULCWednesday-Back/ULCThursday-Mixed Upper Body/BLFriday-HIIT/ULCSaturday-OFFIll be on a 6 day Cycle. So the next Sunday on this schedule will be (Back-Bicep/BL) Because ill alter what body group i backload each weak to evenly take advantage of the BL effects. Thats the plan, anyone feel free to drop ideas, thoughts, and/or comments. Ill be starting a log sometime between tonight and sunday regarding the regiment/progress/meals/workouts I do. Exited to start CBL!
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