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I was on CNS for two months and decided to try CBL and have been doing it for the past 4 weeks.I've gone from 210 to 222 in 4 weeks. I know that about 6-8lbs is water weight and some is muscle but my gut is also growing, something I did not want. The book says baseline carbs should be around 250, and have been hitting and some days exceed. I wanted to try and experiment with higher carbs but I haven't reached that tightness and/or weightloss.I sleep at 3am due to work, wake up between 9:30am(due to baby)-10:30am11:00am-Drink 2 scoops Jack3d with creatine and 200mg caffeine tab11:30am-1:00pm-Train1:30pm-30g hydrolysate, 25g Casein, 5g Creatine, 5g Leucine, 2g L-Carnitine, 200mg Caffeine tab4:00pm-4 eggs, 6 strips of bacon, maybe some grilled green peppers8pm-maybe chicken or steak with 2 cups white rice and pastry12am-Last Meal-Half of pizza, or Carne Asada fries, In-n-out, Chipotle burrito with a pastryResistance train 5x a week, hypertrophy range 10-12 reps plus rest-pause at end of last setI wanna be able to lose weight and gain some mass, if it's possible.Any questions, comments, concerns, criticism is welcome.
I was on CNS for two months
How did you go with CNS? Ive been CBL now for around a month. I have definitely put on some size, shirts are tighter, arms bigger but yeah dont know if ive leaned down at all. I guess 1 positive is that all pants still fit and feel the same around my waist.
I was on CNS for two months
How did you go with CNS? Ive been CBL now for around a month. I have definitely put on some size, shirts are tighter, arms bigger but yeah dont know if ive leaned down at all. I guess 1 positive is that all pants still fit and feel the same around my waist.
My results with CNS were alright, I had been doing low carb before CNS so I wanted to reset my hormones by trying CBL but yeah, pants are fitting a bit tighter. Some people say that they've had weight loss with huge amount of carbs but I don't know which way to go.
I was on CNS for two months and decided to try CBL and have been doing it for the past 4 weeks.I've gone from 210 to 222 in 4 weeks. I know that about 6-8lbs is water weight and some is muscle but my gut is also growing, something I did not want. The book says baseline carbs should be around 250, and have been hitting and some days exceed. I wanted to try and experiment with higher carbs but I haven't reached that tightness and/or weightloss.I sleep at 3am due to work, wake up between 9:30am(due to baby)-10:30am11:00am-Drink 2 scoops Jack3d with creatine and 200mg caffeine tab11:30am-1:00pm-Train1:30pm-30g hydrolysate, 25g Casein, 5g Creatine, 5g Leucine, 2g L-Carnitine, 200mg Caffeine tab4:00pm-4 eggs, 6 strips of bacon, maybe some grilled green peppers8pm-maybe chicken or steak with 2 cups white rice and pastry12am-Last Meal-Half of pizza, or Carne Asada fries, In-n-out, Chipotle burrito with a pastryResistance train 5x a week, hypertrophy range 10-12 reps plus rest-pause at end of last setI wanna be able to lose weight and gain some mass, if it's possible.Any questions, comments, concerns, criticism is welcome.
Have you read this article yet? -> http://www.dangerouslyhardcore.com/1733/hi-tech-nutrient-conversion-lessons-for-carb-back-loading/This might help you a bit. Now the problem with the weight gain is the sleep pattern. Not getting a straight 6-8 hours of sleep per night and with added stress, well will keep cortisol levels raised making weight increase. Plus the train time for CBL is not really optimal. I understand that having a child, you really can't reschedule the time you go to the gym. I would try less dirtier carbs in the evening and add more ULC days to increase fat loss. Unless you can push it earlier in the morning or later in the evening then cleaning up your carbs would be ideally the way to go.
You said you got your baseline from the book, do you mean the delta charts toward the back?If so then that is roughly your upper limit of what you can store.
I gained some big time weight when I first started. Basically dialed the carbs way back (from 350-400 to 200-250) and I've felt better. I have been eating until I'm satisfied but not so full that I feel like throwing up. Weight gain has stopped and I'm starting to lose a little weight. Strength gains are very good so far as well.
I've gone from 210 to 222 in 4 weeks. I know that about 6-8lbs is water weight and some is muscle but my gut is also growing, something I did not want. The book says baseline carbs should be around 250, and have been hitting and some days exceed. I wanted to try and experiment with higher carbs but I haven't reached that tightness and/or weightloss.8pm-maybe chicken or steak with 2 cups white rice and pastry12am-Last Meal-Half of pizza, or Carne Asada fries, In-n-out, Chipotle burrito with a pastryResistance train 5x a week, hypertrophy range 10-12 reps plus rest-pause at end of last setI wanna be able to lose weight and gain some mass, if it's possible.Any questions, comments, concerns, criticism is welcome.
This is a lot to eat in a backload, especially if your eating 2 cups of white rice. Thats ALREADY around 80 grams of carbs. Not to mention your POST workout shake. I would NOT try your upper limit of carbs, because its obvious that you can not handle that many. What BF are you at? If your higher 20% and above I would really really say just have the 2 cups of Rice with protein, and then maybe a desert later in the night. Your not in a position to really backload with shit constantly. I think your body is telling you that. Your eating like a fat kid and asking why your getting fat
http://www.dangerouslyhardcore.com/1733/hi-tech-nutrient-conversion-lessons-for-carb-back-loading/
I can see at least one thing Kiefer has against Glutamine, now. Very interesting.I haven't had a problem on CNS, and I do supp w/ 20g of L-Glutamine on training days (10g pre / 10g post workout). Reading this has me thinking...Any thoughts on this? Anyone else want to contribute more re: L-Glutamine? What is, possibly, too much?Cory
11:00am-Drink 2 scoops Jack3d with creatine and 200mg caffeine tab
Jack3d contains acesulfame potassium. I was under the impression that was something we were supposed to avoid pre-workout because it spikes insulin.Does anyone else think that could be contributing to the problem?http://www.jack3d.org/ingredients
11:00am-Drink 2 scoops Jack3d with creatine and 200mg caffeine tab
Jack3d contains acesulfame potassium. I was under the impression that was something we were supposed to avoid pre-workout because it spikes insulin.Does anyone else think that could be contributing to the problem?http://www.jack3d.org/ingredients
Could be. Then again, most commercial pre-workout blends are $h1t. It is better (and cheaper) to buy the raws, and make your own. Won't taste as nice (in fact, it tastes like downright @$$), but it works, and you won't risk the $h1t insulin-spiking ingredients and crap fillers (in proprietaries).Acetyl-L-Carnitine (ALCAR) and Citrulline Malate are two great pre-workout raws to use, but they will burn your sinuses and rape your taste buds if you let them.Cory
I believe Keifer has said that he likes Jack3d and stated that the amount of Ace-K in it is not enough to spike insulin. It's in a podcast I think but I remember him talking specifically about it, an older one with Naomi in it.
I believe Keifer has said that he likes Jack3d and stated that the amount of Ace-K in it is not enough to spike insulin. It's in a podcast I think but I remember him talking specifically about it, an older one with Naomi in it.
Fair enough, then. Looks like DreamCrusher is fine using Jack3d. That said, personal preference, I like mixing my own raws... then, I can tweak ingredients, their amounts, quality, etc.Been doing this for years, and it is easier on the wallet, b/c you buy in bulk. The only downfall is the wretched natural taste of some of the powders. In time, you learn to pinch your nose, and ingest. Imagination helps a bit, too.Cory
I believe Keifer has said that he likes Jack3d and stated that the amount of Ace-K in it is not enough to spike insulin. It's in a podcast I think but I remember him talking specifically about it, an older one with Naomi in it.
Fair enough, then. Looks like DreamCrusher is fine using Jack3d. That said, personal preference, I like mixing my own raws... then, I can tweak ingredients, their amounts, quality, etc.Been doing this for years, and it is easier on the wallet, b/c you buy in bulk. The only downfall is the wretched natural taste of some of the powders. In time, you learn to pinch your nose, and ingest. Imagination helps a bit, too.Cory
I'm with Cory on this one. It's just easier for me to buy bulk raws and mix it myself these days, it may taste like hell, but at least I know for a fact I'll get an effective dose.
I think the main thing you have to look at recalibrating then adjusting from there. You are going ULC on non training days correct?I would try eating some cleaner foods so you still feel full yet the amount of carbs will be less compared to junk food. If you are keeping track of carbs I would suggest cutting the carbs in half, running that for a couple weeks, and assessing from there. Chances are you will be losing weight or it will level off. If you are losing weight at that time, try adding in 50 carbs to you backload, and see if the weight keeps dropping. All in all it will take some time to find what your most optimal level is, even if you followed the books recommendations to the letter. Once you find it you will be able to adjust accordingly to your goals.
I believe Keifer has said that he likes Jack3d and stated that the amount of Ace-K in it is not enough to spike insulin. It's in a podcast I think but I remember him talking specifically about it, an older one with Naomi in it.
Fair enough, then. Looks like DreamCrusher is fine using Jack3d. That said, personal preference, I like mixing my own raws... then, I can tweak ingredients, their amounts, quality, etc.Been doing this for years, and it is easier on the wallet, b/c you buy in bulk. The only downfall is the wretched natural taste of some of the powders. In time, you learn to pinch your nose, and ingest. Imagination helps a bit, too.Cory
I'm with Cory on this one. It's just easier for me to buy bulk raws and mix it myself these days, it may taste like hell, but at least I know for a fact I'll get an effective dose.
To say it tastes like hell is putting it lightly, for some of these raws... LOL.I made the mistake, once, of breathing in some ALCAR (Acetyl-L-Carnitine) through my nose... it was pure accident. It felt like I had dripped a small amount of acid up my d@mn nose. Lot of burning, itching, watery eyes, congestion, etc. Not nice.Then, there is the taste... like I said, imagination and holding your breath. The physical results are worth it.Cory
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