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January 18, 2015 at 11:53 pm #12062
nowyourdeadsonParticipantI've got some preworkouts that are basically aakg, agmatine, beta-alaine etc, no carbs and no leucine to spike slins..would these be okay you think?
January 19, 2015 at 12:11 am #229677
Nicholas AlonzoParticipantI've got some preworkouts that are basically aakg, agmatine, beta-alaine etc, no carbs and no leucine to spike slins..would these be okay you think?
Yeah they are fine if you got the money for them 90% of the "effectiveness" of a preworkout is the caffeine.
January 19, 2015 at 1:03 am #229678
nowyourdeadsonParticipantsounds goodI've got shelves FULL of stuff and even if it's just the placebo that helps me hammer through a harder workout, then that's good enough for me.. I've got so much stuff
January 20, 2015 at 5:12 am #229679
Jarret MattaParticipantIf you are doing programs similar to John Meadows Mountaindog, I find that taking his IntraMD is vital to help with recovery. Meadows type training is intense and difficult to complete without carbohydrates to help. Again carbs arent meant for everyone pre and peri workout, Meadows even agrees with this. But if your training with great intensity and passion then you may consider his IntraMD to facilitate recovery and train 5-6 days a week.
January 20, 2015 at 11:23 am #229680
Rob HaasGuestI've got some preworkouts that are basically aakg, agmatine, beta-alaine etc, no carbs and no leucine to spike slins..would these be okay you think?
I would say so yes. All ingredients you've specified have been proven to help and even just a little bit adds to allot over time.
January 21, 2015 at 2:08 am #229681
nowyourdeadsonParticipantIf you are doing programs similar to John Meadows Mountaindog, I find that taking his IntraMD is vital to help with recovery. Meadows type training is intense and difficult to complete without carbohydrates to help. Again carbs arent meant for everyone pre and peri workout, Meadows even agrees with this. But if your training with great intensity and passion then you may consider his IntraMD to facilitate recovery and train 5-6 days a week.
that goes COMPLETELY against cbl..I have like 5 tubs of intra-md too.. just sitting there collecting dust.
January 21, 2015 at 2:24 am #229682
Jarret MattaParticipantIf you are doing programs similar to John Meadows Mountaindog, I find that taking his IntraMD is vital to help with recovery. Meadows type training is intense and difficult to complete without carbohydrates to help. Again carbs arent meant for everyone pre and peri workout, Meadows even agrees with this. But if your training with great intensity and passion then you may consider his IntraMD to facilitate recovery and train 5-6 days a week.
that goes COMPLETELY against cbl..I have like 5 tubs of intra-md too.. just sitting there collecting dust.
Ill happily take them off you for a discount 🙂 It does "go against CBL" but you have to understand everyone is different. I started out with CBL and did everything as specified. Once I switched my training to Meadows Mountain dog, have no carbs for workout was not cutting it. I was constantly sore from the previous workout. Not bc CBL was failing, but bc Meadows workouts are just that damn intense and no BS. I still keep low carb first part of day, but started with Intra MD now for workouts and CBL as normal after my lifting sessions. Results: No soreness and no fat gain. You have to see what works for YOU. If I was not getting sore but then was gaining fat, I would have adjusted my CBL amount of carbs and then reevaluate. You have to constantly assess, evaluate, and implement your plans based off that. I realized training was brutal, and adjusted to fit what i felt was appopriate. I am also more on the lean side and can have more carbs than the average joe to begin with.
January 21, 2015 at 2:33 am #229683
nowyourdeadsonParticipantIf you are doing programs similar to John Meadows Mountaindog, I find that taking his IntraMD is vital to help with recovery. Meadows type training is intense and difficult to complete without carbohydrates to help. Again carbs arent meant for everyone pre and peri workout, Meadows even agrees with this. But if your training with great intensity and passion then you may consider his IntraMD to facilitate recovery and train 5-6 days a week.
that goes COMPLETELY against cbl..I have like 5 tubs of intra-md too.. just sitting there collecting dust.
Ill happily take them off you for a discount 🙂 It does "go against CBL" but you have to understand everyone is different. I started out with CBL and did everything as specified. Once I switched my training to Meadows Mountain dog, have no carbs for workout was not cutting it. I was constantly sore from the previous workout. Not bc CBL was failing, but bc Meadows workouts are just that damn intense and no BS. I still keep low carb first part of day, but started with Intra MD now for workouts and CBL as normal after my lifting sessions. Results: No soreness and no fat gain. You have to see what works for YOU. If I was not getting sore but then was gaining fat, I would have adjusted my CBL amount of carbs and then reevaluate. You have to constantly assess, evaluate, and implement your plans based off that. I realized training was brutal, and adjusted to fit what i felt was appopriate. I am also more on the lean side and can have more carbs than the average joe to begin with.
I don't get that luxuryI'm a genetic fat guy.I'm really going to follow it EXACTLY as laid out for a good 90 days and see what happens...if something just simply isn't working I can try the intra approach, I was using truenutrition's MP muscle intrusion for a while, essentially the same thing as intra-md, but tastes better.. now I have tons of intra-md
January 21, 2015 at 5:46 am #229684
Jarret MattaParticipantWilling to sell any of your Intra MD? ill take any discount of your hands
January 21, 2015 at 5:57 am #229685
nowyourdeadsonParticipantit's not going anywhere for now, don't fret.giving CBL a shot, if I like it and I don't feel the need for intra-md, I will certainly let go heavily discounted.if I don't like CBL, or if my training is too intense and requires carbs, I will be using.
January 22, 2015 at 1:00 am #229686
Joseph MontalbanoParticipantAltius by Jacked Factory and MaxHP by prime nutrition are two pretty well dosed preworkouts that don't contain leucine and are basically carb free.
I've got some preworkouts that are basically aakg, agmatine, beta-alaine etc, no carbs and no leucine to spike slins..would these be okay you think?
January 22, 2015 at 1:42 am #229687
Scope75GuestUltimate Orange Juiced or get the FUCK OUT!!!!http://stores.gymntonic.com/1-selling-p-w-o-ultimate-orange-juiced-preworkout-pre-order-only-by-mind-charm-technologies-super-strong/Hands down the best preWO out and that I've ever tried.Drive, Focus, and Motivation to kill any and every workout day after day. It's also a great out on the town supp too. I don't drink but UOJ makes me social and gets me feeling great.
January 22, 2015 at 2:01 am #229688
Joseph MontalbanoParticipantIf only I could get a bottle that still had the ephedra in it. 😉
Ultimate Orange Juiced or get the FUCK OUT!!!!http://stores.gymntonic.com/1-selling-p-w-o-ultimate-orange-juiced-preworkout-pre-order-only-by-mind-charm-technologies-super-strong/Hands down the best preWO out and that I've ever tried.Drive, Focus, and Motivation to kill any and every workout day after day. It's also a great out on the town supp too. I don't drink but UOJ makes me social and gets me feeling great.
January 22, 2015 at 2:15 am #229689
Scope75GuestIf only I could get a bottle that still had the ephedra in it. 😉
Ultimate Orange Juiced or get the FUCK OUT!!!!http://stores.gymntonic.com/1-selling-p-w-o-ultimate-orange-juiced-preworkout-pre-order-only-by-mind-charm-technologies-super-strong/Hands down the best preWO out and that I've ever tried.Drive, Focus, and Motivation to kill any and every workout day after day. It's also a great out on the town supp too. I don't drink but UOJ makes me social and gets me feeling great.
Trust me that UOJ is on a completly different level. I like it so much I have 6 containers of it. If your a stim based preWO guy try out Ultimate Punched Out. It can be found on that same site.
January 22, 2015 at 2:27 am #229690
David M PopeParticipantIf only I could get a bottle that still had the ephedra in it. 😉
Ultimate Orange Juiced or get the FUCK OUT!!!!http://stores.gymntonic.com/1-selling-p-w-o-ultimate-orange-juiced-preworkout-pre-order-only-by-mind-charm-technologies-super-strong/Hands down the best preWO out and that I've ever tried.Drive, Focus, and Motivation to kill any and every workout day after day. It's also a great out on the town supp too. I don't drink but UOJ makes me social and gets me feeling great.
Trust me that UOJ is on a completly different level. I like it so much I have 6 containers of it. If your a stim based preWO guy try out Ultimate Punched Out. It can be found on that same site.
BUT SCOPE IT HAS SUCRALOSE IN IT AND SUCRALOSE WILL RUIN ALL MY GAINZ EVER AND ACTUALLY CAUSE THE OPPOSITE OF INSULIN SECRETION, RIGHT!?! On the realsies though, that looks pretty sweet. Borderline make you a little coked out...but sweet. I like that they don't over caffeinate it. I feel like a lot of "hardcore" pre's just end up getting their "hardcoreness" from 300-500mg caffeine lol.
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