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November 15, 2014 at 2:12 am #227330
Adam HaysParticipantreally? I just feel like i'll get fat if I don't keep some hiit in the plan… Also, I read one of kiefer's articles that hiit pre workout stimulates mTOR and increases testosterone. Plus if I can do hiit and get to eat more food because of it then that'd be sweet… I love to eat food in mass quantities
November 15, 2014 at 2:15 am #227331
Trevor G FullbrightModeratorI think if you're goal is to gain mass 1 HIIT session a week is about all you should do, then to control fat gain you can do some really light cardio like walking, swimming, or light cycling just to expend some extra energy. HIIT will blow out glycogen stores which is make gaining muscle much harder and also increase the chances of actually losing muscle
November 15, 2014 at 2:17 am #227332
Adam HaysParticipantok. Thanks! You think I can continue to do HIIT pre workout and just increase carbs in my backloads?
November 15, 2014 at 2:19 am #227333
Trevor G FullbrightModeratorok. Thanks! You think I can continue to do HIIT pre workout and just increase carbs in my backloads?
I wouldn't if your goal is to gain muscle. Going into resistance training with low glycogen turns off some cellular signaling for muscle growth. Instead increase your training volume. Maybe do some High resistance bike sprints at the end of a leg day, it's very similar to resistance training. Though I still think more high volume squats or leg press would be better
November 15, 2014 at 2:31 am #227334
Melvin McLainParticipantGoing into resistance training with low glycogen turns off some cellular signaling for muscle growth.
Yikes. If that's the case, then (on CNS) weight training should be done the day after carb nite rather than the day of? ???
November 15, 2014 at 2:32 am #227335
Trevor G FullbrightModeratorGoing into resistance training with low glycogen turns off some cellular signaling for muscle growth.
Yikes. If that's the case, then (on CNS) weight training should be done the day after carb nite rather than the day of? ???
If your main goal is to lose body fat, it doesn't matter nearly as much.If you goal is to gain muscle, you shouldn't be doing CNS.I find it doesn't matter much at all on CNS.
November 15, 2014 at 2:34 am #227336
Adam HaysParticipantok thanks for the help!
November 15, 2014 at 4:45 am #227337
Melvin McLainParticipantIf your main goal is to lose body fat, it doesn't matter nearly as much.If you goal is to gain muscle, you shouldn't be doing CNS.I find it doesn't matter much at all on CNS.
Well... I'd think anyone (in their right mind) weight training would want to optimize muscle gain.My goal is both fat-loss and improved strength. So if (as you stated) "low glycogen turns off some cellular signaling for muscle growth," then why on earth wouldn't I want to train with higher glycogen levels rather than lower? ???
November 15, 2014 at 4:53 am #227338
Trevor G FullbrightModeratorIf your main goal is to lose body fat, it doesn't matter nearly as much.If you goal is to gain muscle, you shouldn't be doing CNS.I find it doesn't matter much at all on CNS.
Well... I'd think anyone (in their right mind) weight training would want to optimize muscle gain.My goal is both fat-loss and improved strength. So if (as you stated) "low glycogen turns off some cellular signaling for muscle growth," then why on earth wouldn't I want to train with higher glycogen levels rather than lower? ???
Well obviously that will be better for strength and muscle, but there are still arguments for both when it comes to carb nite. And in the end the likely hood of gaining muscle on carb nite are slim to none unless you are a new trainer or are coming back from a long lay off, at which point it doesn't matter what you do you will gain some muscle.
November 15, 2014 at 3:55 pm #227339
PhattyMemberIf your main goal is to lose body fat, it doesn't matter nearly as much.If you goal is to gain muscle, you shouldn't be doing CNS.I find it doesn't matter much at all on CNS.
Well... I'd think anyone (in their right mind) weight training would want to optimize muscle gain.My goal is both fat-loss and improved strength. So if (as you stated) "low glycogen turns off some cellular signaling for muscle growth," then why on earth wouldn't I want to train with higher glycogen levels rather than lower? ???
Why not both? Train on your carb night and the following days after.
November 15, 2014 at 5:50 pm #227340
Melvin McLainParticipantHealth issues (heart). I'm lucky to get in one session a week at this point (and it's wimpy by most anyone's normal standards). I can go all-out for a couple of minutes, but beyond that and the risk of another attack increases exponentially.I'm currently doing HIT compound lifts, roughly as per BBS (Body By Science) guidelines (45-90 seconds to failure), with one major adjustment - a 10-15 minute rest between lifts. And I've dropped the number from 4 to 2 lifts per session, one session per week, on a 3 week split (21 days between repeats).I don't mean to be annoying, just trying to optimize every effort because I only have limited effort to work with.
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