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Anyone try barbell complexes like the Bear, the Deadly 8 etc instead of stuff like fartlek training?Does it have a place in CBL or CNS?Asking because I am not a big fan of running, though sprints might not be so bad
I am not a fan of any sort of resistance cardio. At least for me my muscles get exhausted before I can get my heart rate up.
Interesting, so does it not have a place in CBL/CNS? At least compared to say sprints or fartlek training
I've used bb complexes in the past. Me and a training partner did an “I go, you go” kind of setup. If you do it right it definitely counts as HIIT!
I am not a fan of any sort of resistance cardio. At least for me my muscles get exhausted before I can get my heart rate up.
I hate them but for the opposite reason. It feels too much like cardio while I'm doing it (I hate cardio) and I don't want to feel that way when lifting. I love lifting.
I am not a fan of any sort of resistance cardio. At least for me my muscles get exhausted before I can get my heart rate up.
I hate them but for the opposite reason. It feels too much like cardio while I'm doing it (I hate cardio) and I don't want to feel that way when lifting. I love lifting.
I hate cardio too, but I do like the conditioning from cardio because it helps my lifting. I don't like doing barbell complexes because I don't want to wear my muscles whenever I'm not strength training.
I'm going to go against the grain here and say that I really enjoy barbell complexes for cardio ; particularly Cosgroves evil 8! I've not noticed them effecting my strength training, they wake me up in the morning and help me burn fat. I limit it to 2-3 times per week maximum, and if it starts to affect my strength training it gets knocked on the head. I say why not try it and see how you get on.
I'm going to go against the grain here and say that I really enjoy barbell complexes for cardio ; particularly Cosgroves evil 8! I've not noticed them effecting my strength training, they wake me up in the morning and help me burn fat. I limit it to 2-3 times per week maximum, and if it starts to affect my strength training it gets knocked on the head. I say why not try it and see how you get on.
+1 to Cosgroves and I will have to add Dan Johns as they definitely are built around some heavy loading and will build muscle and increase conditioning.
I'm going to go against the grain here and say that I really enjoy barbell complexes for cardio ; particularly Cosgroves evil 8! I've not noticed them effecting my strength training, they wake me up in the morning and help me burn fat. I limit it to 2-3 times per week maximum, and if it starts to affect my strength training it gets knocked on the head. I say why not try it and see how you get on.
+1 to Cosgroves and I will have to add Dan Johns as they definitely are built around some heavy loading and will build muscle and increase conditioning.
What are Dan John's complexes? I've had a Google and there's rather a lot out there. Do you have an example of one?
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How much of it comes down to personal preference – for example, if I EVER do something I may consider cardiovascular, it's within the lactate threshold. For me, personally, I don't see the need to so anything aerobic as I don't have the need for it(I'm not running anywhere anytime soon and my Vo2 max isn't bad anyway at 69). So the only "cardio" workouts I do at the moment are Db Complexes - (working in a 8RM range on the weakest movement - Squat to press) DL x 10rev lunge x 5 each legfloor press x 10Bentover row x 10RDL x 10Squat to Press x 53-4 mins rest(active rest at 2nd minute for a minute - something light like star jumps, elevated mountain climbers) and repeat 3-5 times.I don't consume any carbs post complex. I train in the afternoon as well but I try to avoid training legs on Complex days. It's debatable as to whether I'm weaker in the afternoon workouts due to wiping out glycogen from my morning complex. I probably am but I don't feel inhibited by it(I rarely throw in the towel in the afternoon workout and always feel pretty good). I'm wondering if I should consume CHO after these complexes to offset anaerobic glycolysis which may affect my afternoon workouts? If the purpose of these complexes is fat burning then perhaps I should stay ULC post complex? Finally these complexes are less than optimal for fat loss and are maybe too catabolic for muscle gain/ fat loss protocol?I'd appreciate any feedback. Thanks all.
I'm going to go against the grain here and say that I really enjoy barbell complexes for cardio ; particularly Cosgroves evil 8! I've not noticed them effecting my strength training, they wake me up in the morning and help me burn fat. I limit it to 2-3 times per week maximum, and if it starts to affect my strength training it gets knocked on the head. I say why not try it and see how you get on.
+1 to Cosgroves and I will have to add Dan Johns as they definitely are built around some heavy loading and will build muscle and increase conditioning.
What are Dan John's complexes? I've had a Google and there's rather a lot out there. Do you have an example of one?
http://www.t-nation.com/free_online_article/sports_body_training_performance/rebuild_yourself_with_complexesAnother article by Dan with some more complexes ideas.I like complexes every now and then.
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