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August 5, 2012 at 8:51 pm #3098
PaulHamptonKeymasterHey y'allI'm new to this and got the shock of my life when I read that I should be consuming around 700g of carbs in the evening. Physically consuming that much food is just not possible for me - half of that and I am already completely stuffed. I think i'll just gradully increase it each night until it becomes easier (does it?).Anyway - which foods do you guys eat? I'm ideally looking for the most abundant source of high GI carbs. Can you literally drink water with maltodextrin or dextrose in it rather than (or in addition to) eating solid food?CheersPaul
August 5, 2012 at 8:56 pm #70471
Richard SchmittModeratorWhat foods have you been eating? I would stick to what you have been doing and yes dextrose is good carb to take in with foods and a shake.
August 5, 2012 at 11:38 pm #70472
tzanghiParticipantI was curious as to maltodextrin as well because I read it had a GI of 150 somewhere(though this doesn't make sense because I thought 100 was the highest). If maltodextrin has a higher index than dextrose, it seems it would be better.As to the original question, google highest GI foods and you'll get a number of different lists(white bread, white rice, dextrose, jelly beans are some to start).
August 6, 2012 at 12:29 am #70473
jtrouve63MemberIt gets easier, just add a little bit each night as you go and you will figure out what foods fill you up and what foods you can slam.
August 6, 2012 at 4:25 am #70474
DragonTailGuestI just started eating jellybeans. Post-workout, after the shake. I read a study that identified jellybeans as producing the highest insulin response of any food tested.
August 6, 2012 at 7:29 am #70475
plaquexMemberI just started eating jellybeans. Post-workout, after the shake. I read a study that identified jellybeans as producing the highest insulin response of any food tested.
Something in liquid form is still easier/faster to absorb for the body.@tzanghiThe peak of dextrose is higher than the one from maltodextrin (the curve of maltodextrin is different: left dextrose, right maltodextrin) and dextrose is sweeter. (Be careful when using too much, some people get nausea)
August 6, 2012 at 11:32 am #70476
Lasse ElsbakParticipantThe peak of dextrose is higher than the one from maltodextrin (the curve of maltodextrin is different: left dextrose, right maltodextrin) and dextrose is sweeter. (Be careful when using too much, some people get nausea)
Do you know the area under the curves plaq? (just curious) ^^
August 6, 2012 at 12:22 pm #70477
Brandon D ChristParticipantI just started eating jellybeans. Post-workout, after the shake. I read a study that identified jellybeans as producing the highest insulin response of any food tested.
Something in liquid form is still easier/faster to absorb for the body.@tzanghiThe peak of dextrose is higher than the one from maltodextrin (the curve of maltodextrin is different: left dextrose, right maltodextrin) and dextrose is sweeter. (Be careful when using too much, some people get nausea)
Whoa, Whoa, Whoa. Where on earth did you get this? I've have looked tirelessly for blood sugar/insulin curves of various carbs.
August 6, 2012 at 12:26 pm #70478
plaquexMemberThe peak of dextrose is higher than the one from maltodextrin (the curve of maltodextrin is different: left dextrose, right maltodextrin) and dextrose is sweeter. (Be careful when using too much, some people get nausea)
Do you know the area under the curves plaq? (just curious) ^^
I actually posted a link in my original post.
I just started eating jellybeans. Post-workout, after the shake. I read a study that identified jellybeans as producing the highest insulin response of any food tested.
Something in liquid form is still easier/faster to absorb for the body.@tzanghiThe peak of dextrose is higher than the one from maltodextrin (the curve of maltodextrin is different: left dextrose, right maltodextrin) and dextrose is sweeter. (Be careful when using too much, some people get nausea)
Whoa, Whoa, Whoa. Where on earth did you get this? I've have looked tirelessly for blood sugar/insulin curves of various carbs.
Found it on some german site when I was looking for the difference between dextrose and maltodextrin. Some people tend to mix both 50:50 to get that spike and the longer duration of the spike.
August 6, 2012 at 12:28 pm #70479
jtrouve63MemberMalto vs dex is interesting. I've been using malto because I want to finish the tub I have. Maybe I should incorporate the dextrose and matlodextrin together. Thanks for the link
August 6, 2012 at 12:36 pm #70480
Brandon D ChristParticipantThe peak of dextrose is higher than the one from maltodextrin (the curve of maltodextrin is different: left dextrose, right maltodextrin) and dextrose is sweeter. (Be careful when using too much, some people get nausea)
Do you know the area under the curves plaq? (just curious) ^^
Did the best I could, but I approximated it to 60 for dextrose and 80 for the maltodextrin. I think the dextrose is a little higher than my approximation. Split it up into little triangles and rectangles and to find the areas.
August 6, 2012 at 12:38 pm #70481
tzanghiParticipantI just started eating jellybeans. Post-workout, after the shake. I read a study that identified jellybeans as producing the highest insulin response of any food tested.
Something in liquid form is still easier/faster to absorb for the body.@tzanghiThe peak of dextrose is higher than the one from maltodextrin (the curve of maltodextrin is different: left dextrose, right maltodextrin) and dextrose is sweeter. (Be careful when using too much, some people get nausea)
Awesome link, dude, that's just what I was looking for. As for mixing the two, it seems it would be better to just do two bouts of dextrose if you can that way you get two spikes like that and the duration.
September 24, 2012 at 12:24 am #70482
pndpmtGuestYou guys know of any good sources of non-filling carbs aside from dextrose? I'm trying to cut back on sugar, and been eating a lot of rice and potatoes lately. Problem is those things are filling as hell. Any suggestions?
September 24, 2012 at 12:38 am #70483
tzanghiParticipantYou guys know of any good sources of non-filling carbs aside from dextrose? I'm trying to cut back on sugar, and been eating a lot of rice and potatoes lately. Problem is those things are filling as hell. Any suggestions?
This is where the "dirty" sources come in. By "dirty" I just mean processed and/or fatty. I had a few turnover/danish type things my last backload, and they were delicious but not filling. In general, whole foods fill people up more than processed foods. Pastries(e.g., danish, pies, turnovers, croissants) are a great place to start. Pumpkin has a high GI for a vegetable, so pumpkin pie is also a great choice if you can find it yet.
September 24, 2012 at 1:44 am #70484
CainoParticipantGo waxy maize passes through the gut with ease and quicker then malto and dex
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