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August 27, 2012 at 5:24 pm #76629
acarnovaleGuest@AcarnovaleWhy would you carb load in the morning (on Thurs)...?
Sorry, I might have typed that wrong. When you said you would carb-load on Wednesday night I assumed it was because you trained Thursday morning. Is this the case?
August 27, 2012 at 7:28 pm #76630
FairyGuestOh, I do all of my workouts/climbing in the afternoons if that makes a difference. But, I think I see what you're getting at, it's better to carb load the night before I do heavy lifting.Climbing seriously drains me. I get mega adrenaline rushes, which cause glycogen to be released as glucose (http://www.netplaces.com/diabetes/dont-forget-to-exercise/blood-sugars-and-exercise.htm) and I'm smashed after a good climb, so good idea to have the carb loading after climbing.I kinda like the idea of keeping the HIIT just because I like that it's good training for fast running, which always comes in handy in my day to day life 😉m - Climb, 3 hrs -- CLt - Gym w - Climb, 3 hrs -- CLth - Gymfri - Gymsat - HIITsun - HIIT
August 28, 2012 at 1:56 am #76632
acarnovaleGuestOh, I do all of my workouts/climbing in the afternoons if that makes a difference. But, I think I see what you're getting at, it's better to carb load the night before I do heavy lifting.Climbing seriously drains me. I get mega adrenaline rushes, which cause glycogen to be released as glucose (http://www.netplaces.com/diabetes/dont-forget-to-exercise/blood-sugars-and-exercise.htm) and I'm smashed after a good climb, so good idea to have the carb loading after climbing.I kinda like the idea of keeping the HIIT just because I like that it's good training for fast running, which always comes in handy in my day to day life 😉m - Climb, 3 hrs -- CLt - Gym w - Climb, 3 hrs -- CLth - Gymfri - Gymsat - HIITsun - HIIT
If they are that intense then it might work the way you have it set up. If you aren't seeing any progress I'd try switching it up and carb loading after your gym sessions. The way CBL works is that you back-load the same day if you lift in the afternoon or the night before if you lift in the morning.Keep us posted on your progress or send me a PM if you have any questions as you're going along.
August 28, 2012 at 5:56 am #76635
FairyGuestOkay! I've just reread CNS and have been inspired to keep at it. In one part he says you need to leave four UCL days between carb nights for maximal fatloss, so it would be impossible to do a weekly schedule like that, you'd need nine days in a week.I've decided I do want to focus on fatloss just because losing some excess fat would obviously really help me with climbing. I still want to stimulate as much muscle growth as possible in the meantime though. So I'm going to go big on the carb free, insulin spiking recovery shakes (why do we even need the carbs when we have leucine?).M - ClimbT - GymW - GymTh - Climb F - Gym -- Carb LoadS - HIITSu - Rest
August 28, 2012 at 6:14 am #76631
FairyGuestI was also a bit worried that my current routine isn't working my triceps, delts, and rhomboids enough, so I'm thinking of making it this:(5 reps, 2 sets)* Deadlift* Split Squat (Working on improving my squat range; will weight with dumbbells)* Pull up* Explosive Pushups (Working toward clapping pushups; guess it's true that I don't really need the bench yet, but want to keep the focus on power and strength rather than endurance)* Dips (can't actually do real dips yet!)* Reverse fly (I'm really weak at this! Think I need to work on it)
August 28, 2012 at 1:28 pm #76633
acarnovaleGuestOkay! I've just reread CNS and have been inspired to keep at it. In one part he says you need to leave four UCL days between carb nights for maximal fatloss, so it would be impossible to do a weekly schedule like that, you'd need nine days in a week.I've decided I do want to focus on fatloss just because losing some excess fat would obviously really help me with climbing. I still want to stimulate as much muscle growth as possible in the meantime though. So I'm going to go big on the carb free, insulin spiking recovery shakes (why do we even need the carbs when we have leucine?).M - ClimbT - GymW - GymTh - Climb F - Gym -- Carb LoadS - HIITSu - Rest
Just make sure to add in another carb nite during the week if you start to feel sluggish. Just put it around one of your tougher training sessions. CNS wasn't designed with the training population in mind. Oh, and I believe we need carbs because although leucine spikes insulin, it doesn't replenish glycogen stores which is the whole reason we're eating carbs (I'm sure someone with more scientific knowledge can verify this/say if I'm full of shit)
August 28, 2012 at 1:37 pm #76634
FairyGuestBut isn't the whole point of doing HIIT after a carb night to get rid of glycogen stores so you can continue burning fat?
August 28, 2012 at 2:04 pm #76636
acarnovaleGuestBut isn't the whole point of doing HIIT after a carb night to get rid of glycogen stores so you can continue burning fat?
Yes, but heavy training will deplete glycogen stores as well. So, in essence the other training your doing is constantly depleting your glycogen stores. Too many days of this without any replenishment will likely have you feeling like absolute garbage. You'll have to monitor things as you go and see if it needs tweaking. You could be completely fine, but I wanted to make sure you know how to adjust if it becomes necessary down the road.
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