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October 5, 2012 at 6:22 pm #4453
d3spwnParticipantThe past few days I've been turning my fingers into pincushions to measure my blood ketone levels. I was hoping to optimize my meal timings with the results, but to be honist, I have no clue what to make from it :).I made the first measurement each day right after waking up. I ate an ULC breakfast around 3 hours later and 2 cups of coffee with a tsp of coconut oil and butter. I had a high carb dinner on the second day.The coconut oil doesn't seem to have much of an effect on ketone levels. Full meals however cause a big spike. The high carb meal tanked ketone production, but I was still in proper ketosis the next day.
October 5, 2012 at 8:59 pm #87111
Big_RParticipantThe past few days I've been turning my fingers into pincushions to measure my blood ketone levels. I was hoping to optimize my meal timings with the results, but to be honist, I have no clue what to make from it :).I made the first measurement each day right after waking up. I ate an ULC breakfast around 3 hours later and 2 cups of coffee with a tsp of coconut oil and butter. I had a high carb dinner on the second day.The coconut oil doesn't seem to have much of an effect on ketone levels. Full meals however cause a big spike. The high carb meal tanked ketone production, but I was still in proper ketosis the next day.
damn, you are going all out! Lol.
October 6, 2012 at 9:45 pm #87112
Eric ShawMemberI think you need to provide more specifics, i.e. exact meal break downs and times, over a longer period of time. You only measured 3 days a month apart for each time, saying the next day was you high carb meal. I don't see how the High carb meal is taken into account if the measurments were taken the day prior. In my opinion there is not enough data to draw any significant conclusions.My advice would be take your readings every day for 7 days, while also recording exact times, and composition of all your caloric intake, along with exact training times and type of excercise performed. This will then give you a much better data set from which to draw any conclusions.This is a very poor data set.
October 6, 2012 at 9:59 pm #87113
MaccaParticipantI think you need to provide more specifics, i.e. exact meal break downs and times, over a longer period of time. You only measured 3 days a month apart for each time, saying the next day was you high carb meal. I don't see how the High carb meal is taken into account if the measurments were taken the day prior. In my opinion there is not enough data to draw any significant conclusions.My advice would be take your readings every day for 7 days, while also recording exact times, and composition of all your caloric intake, along with exact training times and type of excercise performed. This will then give you a much better data set from which to draw any conclusions.This is a very poor data set.
I think you've read the data wrong there....The OP measured several times a day on 3 consecutive days - The high carb meal was on day two
October 7, 2012 at 12:00 am #87114
David MargittaiParticipantI think you need to provide more specifics, i.e. exact meal break downs and times, over a longer period of time. You only measured 3 days a month apart for each time, saying the next day was you high carb meal. I don't see how the High carb meal is taken into account if the measurments were taken the day prior. In my opinion there is not enough data to draw any significant conclusions.My advice would be take your readings every day for 7 days, while also recording exact times, and composition of all your caloric intake, along with exact training times and type of excercise performed. This will then give you a much better data set from which to draw any conclusions.This is a very poor data set.
I think you've read the data wrong there....The OP measured several times a day on 3 consecutive days - The high carb meal was on day two
Yeah...you definitely misinterpreted the data set here. The readings are taken on the 3rd, 4th, and 5th of October (10) and I actually think these results are amazing to see because it shows that even after consuming high carbs one night -- causing blood ketone levels to plunge -- those ketone levels can rise right back up to previous elevated levels once you go back to your ULC eating the next day.
October 7, 2012 at 1:53 am #87115
steverMemberthis is great! what is most striking for me is the day after the heavy carbohydrate meal, you don't appear to produce nearly as many ketones as the two days prior. assuming meals of the same size*, they're either being metabolized via a different pathway, not being metabolized, or being partially stored. correct? there's a lot of supposition on my part here, sorry.*the first time i looked over the graph I assumed you only had kiefer-coffee until a big ULC dinner at 18:00
October 7, 2012 at 4:09 am #87116
d3spwnParticipantI think you need to provide more specifics, i.e. exact meal break downs and times, over a longer period of time. You only measured 3 days a month apart for each time, saying the next day was you high carb meal. I don't see how the High carb meal is taken into account if the measurments were taken the day prior.
I'm from Europe, we write dates in the format dd/mm/yyyy. I'm sorry for the confusion :).
In my opinion there is not enough data to draw any significant conclusions.My advice would be take your readings every day for 7 days, while also recording exact times, and composition of all your caloric intake, along with exact training times and type of excercise performed. This will then give you a much better data set from which to draw any conclusions.This is a very poor data set.
I agree. This wasn't meant to be a watertight scientific experiment though :). Also, the ketone test strips are extremely expensive (2 Euro's per piece).I do wan't to know if the fluctuations in ketone levels are part of a natural daily rhythm or due to meal timing. So I'll probably do some tests during a day of fasting at some point.
October 7, 2012 at 4:16 am #87117
David MargittaiParticipantI agree. This wasn't meant to be a watertight scientific experiment though :). Also, the ketone test strips are extremely expensive (2 Euro's per piece).I do wan't to know if the fluctuations in ketone levels are part of a natural daily rhythm or due to meal timing. So I'll probably do some tests during a day of fasting at some point.
If I had to guess, I would imagine that the levels would directly correspond to the meals you eat -- in ketosis and eat a fatty meal, blood ketone levels would spike; conversely, in ketosis and eat high carbs, blood ketone levels will tank. Absolutely just a guess, though. I'd be very interested in seeing the results of any further tests you perform!
October 17, 2012 at 7:42 am #87118
julpemMemberThat's really cool what you did there! I'm on CNS and I have only keto stix to measure my ketons so I don't know how accurate that is. But after a CN it takes me 4-5 days to get measurable keton levels in my urine. Maybe I do just one carb meal instead of a whole carb nite? Have you ever tested your ketoons after consuming stevia? Julia
October 17, 2012 at 10:34 am #87119
Jack O'NeillMemberAfter 5 weeks with CNS I need 2 days to recover ketosis.I use ketosticks and color is changing on tuesday morning after my saturday CarbNite.I doubt that stevia removes all ketones from your blood or stop ketosis.I personally use Ace-K with soda diets sometimes and I keep ketosis
October 24, 2012 at 10:36 am #87120
Eurasian_SensationMemberThat's really cool what you did there! I'm on CNS and I have only keto stix to measure my ketons so I don't know how accurate that is. But after a CN it takes me 4-5 days to get measurable keton levels in my urine. Maybe I do just one carb meal instead of a whole carb nite? Have you ever tested your ketoons after consuming stevia? Julia
Hmm that's a while. Hope it doesnt take that long for me..
November 14, 2012 at 11:42 am #87121
IgboMesoMemberI'd be very interesting to see a data with detailed meal breakdowns and a Blood ketone Measurement before meals.
November 14, 2012 at 11:57 am #87122
FairyGuestAlways do 6-8 hrs of carb consumption if you're on CNS. Cutting back on carbs will fuck up your hormones for the following week.
November 14, 2012 at 11:59 am #87123
FairyGuestKeto-stix are not an accurate measure of whether your body is running off ketones or not. Ignore them. If you want to get into ketosis faster post CN, deplete glycogen using resistance training the days following CN
November 28, 2012 at 6:43 am #87124
kcarolhxwParticipantPlease do more, this is fascinating! Sorry about your fingers 🙁Sure there's not a lot of data, but it could be very valuable with more data and adjusting parameters for comparison.
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