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I am new here so cut me some slack.I bodybuild and have just started this program. I am trying to gain/maintain muscle mass while losing optimal fat. My question is in order to do this would one recommend to keep doing cardio (i do two days of HIIT and one steady paced session each week) and eat the main "clean" carbs (white rice, potatoes, etc.) postworkout as opposed to complete crap in order to lose the most fat? Also, after i eat a big dinner i usually have one more meal before i go to bed. Should this meal be somewhat clean as well, such as oatmeal cereal and a shake, or should i have a full meal and get completely full? i know this all depends on the specific person but im open to any tips or suggestions.
Hey welcome! It's all good no worries. Just cut out the steady state cardio, the two days HIIT is perfect, if you want a third type of cardio do some walking on the treadmill or out an about. I'm wanting to achieve the athletic type build as well. Are you doing CNS or CBL? The clean carbs are ideal, and it you're doing CNS then enjoy a dessert if you want. The last meal can be clean if you want. Dextrose and some type of protein could be good. No oats, brown rice, etc. I'm currently enjoying my Carb Nite, and my stats are 6ft/72in; 175lbs/79kg; about 11-12% BF. (I think that's the correct BF)
Hey welcome! It's all good no worries. Just cut out the steady state cardio, the two days HIIT is perfect, if you want a third type of cardio do some walking on the treadmill or out an about. I'm wanting to achieve the athletic type build as well. Are you doing CNS or CBL? The clean carbs are ideal, and it you're doing CNS then enjoy a dessert if you want. The last meal can be clean if you want. Dextrose and some type of protein could be good. No oats, brown rice, etc. I'm currently enjoying my Carb Nite, and my stats are 6ft/72in; 175lbs/79kg; about 11-12% BF. (I think that's the correct BF)
+1You will have to re-think some bodybuilding gospel truths (oats being one of them, brown rice, another). I suggest reading the book thoroughly. Search the "entire" forum if you have questions as many of them would have been answered already and you get your answers faster. 'Just wondering though, if you have a fast metabolism and you lift weights as a bodybuilder, what's with all the cardio?
I am doing the carb back loading system. That would've been useful to mention. Haha. But the steady cardio is usually only 15 min on an incline so nothing extreme. The reason I do it is because I've been doing it for about 3 weeks now as to where I used to not do any at all. Less than two months ago I was around 194lbs and now I'm about a solid 186 and I know I've lost the lbs as fat because I look more defined and bigger. I go more by the mirror than anything else. I had an exact diet I followed but then I found out about this system and it sounded too good to be true and I wanna try it. I'm trying to find out as much as I can so I can obviously go forward in progress and not back. Thanks for welcome guys!
Just like a fellow member tells me all the time, just keep it simple (K.I.S.S.). The 15 min is ok if it's walking, I'm the same way and get bored easily when I'm not doing something, thus why I try to walk around a lot. Are you getting the hang of the ULC during the day and then meeting a good number in grams for carbs at night? Also SA or DB?
Oh yeah I'm definitely getting in a lot of carbs. The first night for dinner I had a huge home cooked meal (roast, mashed taters, rolls, corn, and Mac and cheese). Then after that meal before bed I had a whole plate of pillsbury orange icing cinnamon rolls with a ton of milk and then a shake to finish it off. Haha. After following a strict diet of usually eating oats and 6 eggs before bed, this was amazing. Haha.
I am doing the carb back loading system. That would've been useful to mention. Haha. But the steady cardio is usually only 15 min on an incline so nothing extreme. The reason I do it is because I've been doing it for about 3 weeks now as to where I used to not do any at all. Less than two months ago I was around 194lbs and now I'm about a solid 186 and I know I've lost the lbs as fat because I look more defined and bigger. I go more by the mirror than anything else. I had an exact diet I followed but then I found out about this system and it sounded too good to be true and I wanna try it. I'm trying to find out as much as I can so I can obviously go forward in progress and not back. Thanks for welcome guys!
Ah, so your metabolism is not as high as you think if you need to do cardio to lose fat. People with high metabolism stay away from cardio as they don't really have all that much fat and doing cardio threatens lean mass loss.
Dang I guess you're probably right. Haha. Also, tex I didn't know what you meant by DB and SA?
Density Bulk and Strength Accumulation 😉
SA stands for strength accumulation and DB stands for density bulking. Strength Accumulation is for leaning out while Density Bulking for gaining mass. The Carb Backloading your probabky thinking of is Strength Accumulation, it is the version of the diet that most people use.SA allows for some lean mass gains while losing some fat. DB is a pure mass gain diet resulting in possibly some fat gain as a side effect.
Oh okay I gotcha. Yeah, SA sounds more for me. I'm an 18 year old senior still in high school so I'm being cheap and trying to figure out as much as I can without actually buying the book even though I know it'd help. Haha I just research all the articles and podcasts on CBL. And now this forum is helping too!
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