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May 7, 2013 at 10:35 pm #175217
MikehrMemberIf you take some carbs out of your backload and put them intra that should help with staying leaner but if you ADD the intra carbs on top of your backload that could cause spill over. I have been eating these mini red potatoes, then take 22 min to bake at 425 degress if you baked like 5 lbs at a time and just reheated them during the week that would save time. Also you can find instant mashed, the no name brand here has just dehydrated potatoes and salt in them and they only take like 2 min to make. Try experimenting with less dairy and/or less gluten the "fat" on your abs may just be water retention
So intra carbs wont make me fat coz of insulin spike?Can you give me some examples of less gluten annd gluten free foods ? i dont use dairy products at all
Potatoes, rice, sticky rice, gluten free cereal like rice chex, fruity pebbles, over ripe bananas. And there is lots of GF products on the market too
May 8, 2013 at 12:12 am #175218
tzanghiParticipantIf you take some carbs out of your backload and put them intra that should help with staying leaner but if you ADD the intra carbs on top of your backload that could cause spill over. Try experimenting with less dairy and/or less gluten the "fat" on your abs may just be water retention
These are good ideas Virus. Try them. But I will also say that you are going to have to accept some fat gain. You will lose some definition (if not your abs entirely) if you are planning on making any real muscle gaining progress. If youve had abs before though itll be easy to get them back. So please tell us. What progress have you made lately? Should have gained a couple of kilos by now.
^^ Exactly
I agree typically 10% is about the lowest you can maintain during a bulk. The only person I have ever heard of staying leaner than that while bulking is John Meadows, but he's well, John Meadows.
Hey, when you don't have a small(?) intestine, all bets are off.
May 8, 2013 at 12:25 am #175219
Punjabi_virusMemberIf you take some carbs out of your backload and put them intra that should help with staying leaner but if you ADD the intra carbs on top of your backload that could cause spill over. I have been eating these mini red potatoes, then take 22 min to bake at 425 degress if you baked like 5 lbs at a time and just reheated them during the week that would save time. Also you can find instant mashed, the no name brand here has just dehydrated potatoes and salt in them and they only take like 2 min to make. Try experimenting with less dairy and/or less gluten the "fat" on your abs may just be water retention
So intra carbs wont make me fat coz of insulin spike?Can you give me some examples of less gluten annd gluten free foods ? i dont use dairy products at all
Potatoes, rice, sticky rice, gluten free cereal like rice chex, fruity pebbles, over ripe bananas. And there is lots of GF products on the market too
Atm i start backloading with fruity loops, rice cakes, corn thins and rice crackers for the first meal and cake, buns and baked fries for last meal. When you said intra carbs, how much should they be? My postworkout has 50gm dextrose
May 8, 2013 at 3:20 am #175220
Punjabi_virusMemberGood stuff. Now we are getting somewhere! (:Coz you all guys motivated me 😀
May 8, 2013 at 3:23 am #175221
MikehrMemberIf you take some carbs out of your backload and put them intra that should help with staying leaner but if you ADD the intra carbs on top of your backload that could cause spill over. I have been eating these mini red potatoes, then take 22 min to bake at 425 degress if you baked like 5 lbs at a time and just reheated them during the week that would save time. Also you can find instant mashed, the no name brand here has just dehydrated potatoes and salt in them and they only take like 2 min to make. Try experimenting with less dairy and/or less gluten the "fat" on your abs may just be water retention
So intra carbs wont make me fat coz of insulin spike?Can you give me some examples of less gluten annd gluten free foods ? i dont use dairy products at all
Potatoes, rice, sticky rice, gluten free cereal like rice chex, fruity pebbles, over ripe bananas. And there is lots of GF products on the market too
Atm i start backloading with fruity loops, rice cakes, corn thins and rice crackers for the first meal and cake, buns and baked fries for last meal. When you said intra carbs, how much should they be? My postworkout has 50gm dextrose
Yeah well that sounds fine maybe drop the cake and buns for some GF stuff and see what happens. and intra should be around 20-30g id say
May 8, 2013 at 7:58 am #175222
Punjabi_virusMemberI went to supermarket today and got all GF stuff like cereals, jelly beans, frooty popcorns, icecream,rice cakes, corn thins, gummy bears, rice , frozen chips. im gonna give it a try for a week and see how it goes
May 9, 2013 at 3:05 am #175223
Punjabi_virusMemberIf you take some carbs out of your backload and put them intra that should help with staying leaner but if you ADD the intra carbs on top of your backload that could cause spill over. I have been eating these mini red potatoes, then take 22 min to bake at 425 degress if you baked like 5 lbs at a time and just reheated them during the week that would save time. Also you can find instant mashed, the no name brand here has just dehydrated potatoes and salt in them and they only take like 2 min to make. Try experimenting with less dairy and/or less gluten the "fat" on your abs may just be water retention
So intra carbs wont make me fat coz of insulin spike?Can you give me some examples of less gluten annd gluten free foods ? i dont use dairy products at all
Potatoes, rice, sticky rice, gluten free cereal like rice chex, fruity pebbles, over ripe bananas. And there is lots of GF products on the market too
Atm i start backloading with fruity loops, rice cakes, corn thins and rice crackers for the first meal and cake, buns and baked fries for last meal. When you said intra carbs, how much should they be? My postworkout has 50gm dextrose
Yeah well that sounds fine maybe drop the cake and buns for some GF stuff and see what happens. and intra should be around 20-30g id say
Would you mind explaining how intra carbs will help staying lean?
May 9, 2013 at 5:53 am #175224
MikehrMemberWell I don't know if it will but it has for me, moving carbs out of the bl window to where your using them immediately makes sense and it helps for recovery as well
May 9, 2013 at 6:18 am #175225
Punjabi_virusMemberWell I don't know if it will but it has for me, moving carbs out of the bl window to where your using them immediately makes sense and it helps for recovery as well
will give it a go. I still cant figure how much carbs do i need to backload with. Last night it was arnd 400. Im planning to take it upto 600 tonight but all clean . No junk
May 9, 2013 at 9:13 pm #175226
Gl;itch.eMemberWell I don't know if it will but it has for me, moving carbs out of the bl window to where your using them immediately makes sense and it helps for recovery as well
will give it a go. I still cant figure how much carbs do i need to backload with. Last night it was arnd 400. Im planning to take it upto 600 tonight but all clean . No junk
This doesnt matter as much as you might think. But both of those numbers look to high to me considering your weight. I think you are going to need to focus on your ULC calories a bit more to make gains while minimising bodyfat. Relying on the carbs for your calories means probably eating a ton more than your muscles have any use for. I know iBob is going to disagree though!! (;
May 9, 2013 at 10:51 pm #175227
MikehrMemberWell I don't know if it will but it has for me, moving carbs out of the bl window to where your using them immediately makes sense and it helps for recovery as well
will give it a go. I still cant figure how much carbs do i need to backload with. Last night it was arnd 400. Im planning to take it upto 600 tonight but all clean . No junk
This doesnt matter as much as you might think. But both of those numbers look to high to me considering your weight. I think you are going to need to focus on your ULC calories a bit more to make gains while minimising bodyfat. Relying on the carbs for your calories means probably eating a ton more than your muscles have any use for. I know iBob is going to disagree though!! (;
haha oh god Glitche are we gonna start this debate again... But I agree I dont think anyone needs 600g of carbs, in a backload unless your running a marathon and weight training,
May 9, 2013 at 11:35 pm #175228
Punjabi_virusMemberWell I don't know if it will but it has for me, moving carbs out of the bl window to where your using them immediately makes sense and it helps for recovery as well
will give it a go. I still cant figure how much carbs do i need to backload with. Last night it was arnd 400. Im planning to take it upto 600 tonight but all clean . No junk
This doesnt matter as much as you might think. But both of those numbers look to high to me considering your weight. I think you are going to need to focus on your ULC calories a bit more to make gains while minimising bodyfat. Relying on the carbs for your calories means probably eating a ton more than your muscles have any use for. I know iBob is going to disagree though!! (;
Sorry it was supposed to be 500, mistakenkly wrote 600. During my ulc part i consume arnd 130gm protein and fat 80-90.
May 9, 2013 at 11:42 pm #175229
Gl;itch.eMemberWell I don't know if it will but it has for me, moving carbs out of the bl window to where your using them immediately makes sense and it helps for recovery as well
will give it a go. I still cant figure how much carbs do i need to backload with. Last night it was arnd 400. Im planning to take it upto 600 tonight but all clean . No junk
This doesnt matter as much as you might think. But both of those numbers look to high to me considering your weight. I think you are going to need to focus on your ULC calories a bit more to make gains while minimising bodyfat. Relying on the carbs for your calories means probably eating a ton more than your muscles have any use for. I know iBob is going to disagree though!! (;
haha oh god Glitche are we gonna start this debate again... But I agree I dont think anyone needs 600g of carbs, in a backload unless your running a marathon and weight training,
Mwahahaha!
May 10, 2013 at 1:45 pm #175230
Brandon D ChristParticipantWell I will say this. Clean vs junk (however you define clean and junk) does not matter. The number of carbs is much more important.
May 10, 2013 at 7:43 pm #175231
Punjabi_virusMemberWell I will say this. Clean vs junk (however you define clean and junk) does not matter. The number of carbs is much more important.
I guess is should stick to that 350gms thats what i was eating before and start eating more fats and protein during ulc say arnd P140/f90-100 and backload P90/f20-30/C350?
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