Calorie needs for bulking

[Trevor G Fullbright]

Unless it's a protein mix full of carbs. Then no.

Im talking about wedges, bread, frooty pebbles during backload so no need to count ?what abt carbs in sauces during backload?

If it's not dairy or meat, don't count it.Yeah, carbs in sauces count.

sweet. so i dont wanna backload on off days , how can i eat arnd 4000 calories without carbs? coz atm when its my off day i just go wirh pro and fats that makes upto2500-2700 calories, i guess thats too low during bulking as the guy above said it too

you dont. you eat carbs

So my off day should be like a normal training day. i have been backloading since 2 days and i havent trained yet and im feeling i have gone fat

You're likely hold some water, and you might have over done it.Are you sure you even need 4k calories?

I wkout 6 days/week and coz of physical job almost 7days/week, calculation for me was 3450 so i just add more 500 calories to it. Im not sure if i have calculated it right or not but i have been following this since last 3 months and cat see any change in the body weight. Maybe the problem was that i was calculating the protein from carb sources too (nutri grain cereal 100gms- p35/c84/f2). so i guess i should stop doing thatand just consume carbsDo u think my maintenance calories 3450 is correct figure for me?Should i count fat coming with carb meals or fat should be counted only preworkout or total overall for the day?( like i get some fat fromn wedges, i love eating iced finger buns and if i eat 4 of them i get 21gm of fat)

Those bars most likely have nut protein that you should count, but don't eat them they suck.Fat counts from the whole day. That might be correct for your needs, I was just asking. Don't worry about being so exact and hitting certain set numbers every day.Aim for roughly 1g per lbs in protein, if you over shoot some big deal. Aim for .75-1g fat per lbs, again if you ever shoot it isn't that big of a deal.Then fill in the rest with carbs. Don't worry about tracking things to perfectly and being so damn anal about it.

[Punjabi_virus]

Unless it's a protein mix full of carbs. Then no.

Im talking about wedges, bread, frooty pebbles during backload so no need to count ?what abt carbs in sauces during backload?

If it's not dairy or meat, don't count it.Yeah, carbs in sauces count.

sweet. so i dont wanna backload on off days , how can i eat arnd 4000 calories without carbs? coz atm when its my off day i just go wirh pro and fats that makes upto2500-2700 calories, i guess thats too low during bulking as the guy above said it too

you dont. you eat carbs

So my off day should be like a normal training day. i have been backloading since 2 days and i havent trained yet and im feeling i have gone fat

You're likely hold some water, and you might have over done it.Are you sure you even need 4k calories?

I wkout 6 days/week and coz of physical job almost 7days/week, calculation for me was 3450 so i just add more 500 calories to it. Im not sure if i have calculated it right or not but i have been following this since last 3 months and cat see any change in the body weight. Maybe the problem was that i was calculating the protein from carb sources too (nutri grain cereal 100gms- p35/c84/f2). so i guess i should stop doing thatand just consume carbsDo u think my maintenance calories 3450 is correct figure for me?Should i count fat coming with carb meals or fat should be counted only preworkout or total overall for the day?( like i get some fat fromn wedges, i love eating iced finger buns and if i eat 4 of them i get 21gm of fat)

Those bars most likely have nut protein that you should count, but don't eat them they suck.Fat counts from the whole day. That might be correct for your needs, I was just asking. Don't worry about being so exact and hitting certain set numbers every day.Aim for roughly 1g per lbs in protein, if you over shoot some big deal. Aim for .75-1g fat per lbs, again if you ever shoot it isn't that big of a deal.Then fill in the rest with carbs. Don't worry about tracking things to perfectly and being so damn anal about it.

cheers mate. so 3450 maintenance is ok for me ? how much surplus should i go to build muscle and not get fat?

[Trevor G Fullbright]

Unless it's a protein mix full of carbs. Then no.

Im talking about wedges, bread, frooty pebbles during backload so no need to count ?what abt carbs in sauces during backload?

If it's not dairy or meat, don't count it.Yeah, carbs in sauces count.

sweet. so i dont wanna backload on off days , how can i eat arnd 4000 calories without carbs? coz atm when its my off day i just go wirh pro and fats that makes upto2500-2700 calories, i guess thats too low during bulking as the guy above said it too

you dont. you eat carbs

So my off day should be like a normal training day. i have been backloading since 2 days and i havent trained yet and im feeling i have gone fat

You're likely hold some water, and you might have over done it.Are you sure you even need 4k calories?

I wkout 6 days/week and coz of physical job almost 7days/week, calculation for me was 3450 so i just add more 500 calories to it. Im not sure if i have calculated it right or not but i have been following this since last 3 months and cat see any change in the body weight. Maybe the problem was that i was calculating the protein from carb sources too (nutri grain cereal 100gms- p35/c84/f2). so i guess i should stop doing thatand just consume carbsDo u think my maintenance calories 3450 is correct figure for me?Should i count fat coming with carb meals or fat should be counted only preworkout or total overall for the day?( like i get some fat fromn wedges, i love eating iced finger buns and if i eat 4 of them i get 21gm of fat)

Those bars most likely have nut protein that you should count, but don't eat them they suck.Fat counts from the whole day. That might be correct for your needs, I was just asking. Don't worry about being so exact and hitting certain set numbers every day.Aim for roughly 1g per lbs in protein, if you over shoot some big deal. Aim for .75-1g fat per lbs, again if you ever shoot it isn't that big of a deal.Then fill in the rest with carbs. Don't worry about tracking things to perfectly and being so damn anal about it.

cheers mate. so 3450 maintenance is ok for me ? how much surplus should i go to build muscle and not get fat?

Again, don't go crazy about it.Just eat a little more food then you otherwise might, be full but don't be sick or eat like a fat ass, train hard and sleep. Setting a number of calories needed to gain muscle while controlling fat is stupid and damn near impossible.

[Punjabi_virus]

Unless it's a protein mix full of carbs. Then no.

Im talking about wedges, bread, frooty pebbles during backload so no need to count ?what abt carbs in sauces during backload?

If it's not dairy or meat, don't count it.Yeah, carbs in sauces count.

sweet. so i dont wanna backload on off days , how can i eat arnd 4000 calories without carbs? coz atm when its my off day i just go wirh pro and fats that makes upto2500-2700 calories, i guess thats too low during bulking as the guy above said it too

you dont. you eat carbs

So my off day should be like a normal training day. i have been backloading since 2 days and i havent trained yet and im feeling i have gone fat

You're likely hold some water, and you might have over done it.Are you sure you even need 4k calories?

I wkout 6 days/week and coz of physical job almost 7days/week, calculation for me was 3450 so i just add more 500 calories to it. Im not sure if i have calculated it right or not but i have been following this since last 3 months and cat see any change in the body weight. Maybe the problem was that i was calculating the protein from carb sources too (nutri grain cereal 100gms- p35/c84/f2). so i guess i should stop doing thatand just consume carbsDo u think my maintenance calories 3450 is correct figure for me?Should i count fat coming with carb meals or fat should be counted only preworkout or total overall for the day?( like i get some fat fromn wedges, i love eating iced finger buns and if i eat 4 of them i get 21gm of fat)

Those bars most likely have nut protein that you should count, but don't eat them they suck.Fat counts from the whole day. That might be correct for your needs, I was just asking. Don't worry about being so exact and hitting certain set numbers every day.Aim for roughly 1g per lbs in protein, if you over shoot some big deal. Aim for .75-1g fat per lbs, again if you ever shoot it isn't that big of a deal.Then fill in the rest with carbs. Don't worry about tracking things to perfectly and being so damn anal about it.

cheers mate. so 3450 maintenance is ok for me ? how much surplus should i go to build muscle and not get fat?

Again, don't go crazy about it.Just eat a little more food then you otherwise might, be full but don't be sick or eat like a fat ass, train hard and sleep. Setting a number of calories needed to gain muscle while controlling fat is stupid and damn near impossible.

According to the book a 155 lbs person should be eating 570 gm carbs. is it correct thn?

[Trevor G Fullbright]

Unless it's a protein mix full of carbs. Then no.

Im talking about wedges, bread, frooty pebbles during backload so no need to count ?what abt carbs in sauces during backload?

If it's not dairy or meat, don't count it.Yeah, carbs in sauces count.

sweet. so i dont wanna backload on off days , how can i eat arnd 4000 calories without carbs? coz atm when its my off day i just go wirh pro and fats that makes upto2500-2700 calories, i guess thats too low during bulking as the guy above said it too

you dont. you eat carbs

So my off day should be like a normal training day. i have been backloading since 2 days and i havent trained yet and im feeling i have gone fat

You're likely hold some water, and you might have over done it.Are you sure you even need 4k calories?

I wkout 6 days/week and coz of physical job almost 7days/week, calculation for me was 3450 so i just add more 500 calories to it. Im not sure if i have calculated it right or not but i have been following this since last 3 months and cat see any change in the body weight. Maybe the problem was that i was calculating the protein from carb sources too (nutri grain cereal 100gms- p35/c84/f2). so i guess i should stop doing thatand just consume carbsDo u think my maintenance calories 3450 is correct figure for me?Should i count fat coming with carb meals or fat should be counted only preworkout or total overall for the day?( like i get some fat fromn wedges, i love eating iced finger buns and if i eat 4 of them i get 21gm of fat)

Those bars most likely have nut protein that you should count, but don't eat them they suck.Fat counts from the whole day. That might be correct for your needs, I was just asking. Don't worry about being so exact and hitting certain set numbers every day.Aim for roughly 1g per lbs in protein, if you over shoot some big deal. Aim for .75-1g fat per lbs, again if you ever shoot it isn't that big of a deal.Then fill in the rest with carbs. Don't worry about tracking things to perfectly and being so damn anal about it.

cheers mate. so 3450 maintenance is ok for me ? how much surplus should i go to build muscle and not get fat?

Again, don't go crazy about it.Just eat a little more food then you otherwise might, be full but don't be sick or eat like a fat ass, train hard and sleep. Setting a number of calories needed to gain muscle while controlling fat is stupid and damn near impossible.

According to the book a 155 lbs person should be eating 570 gm carbs. is it correct thn?

That is a rough estimation of the max glycogen they can hold, not something to aim for.

[Punjabi_virus]

Unless it's a protein mix full of carbs. Then no.

Im talking about wedges, bread, frooty pebbles during backload so no need to count ?what abt carbs in sauces during backload?

If it's not dairy or meat, don't count it.Yeah, carbs in sauces count.

sweet. so i dont wanna backload on off days , how can i eat arnd 4000 calories without carbs? coz atm when its my off day i just go wirh pro and fats that makes upto2500-2700 calories, i guess thats too low during bulking as the guy above said it too

you dont. you eat carbs

So my off day should be like a normal training day. i have been backloading since 2 days and i havent trained yet and im feeling i have gone fat

You're likely hold some water, and you might have over done it.Are you sure you even need 4k calories?

I wkout 6 days/week and coz of physical job almost 7days/week, calculation for me was 3450 so i just add more 500 calories to it. Im not sure if i have calculated it right or not but i have been following this since last 3 months and cat see any change in the body weight. Maybe the problem was that i was calculating the protein from carb sources too (nutri grain cereal 100gms- p35/c84/f2). so i guess i should stop doing thatand just consume carbsDo u think my maintenance calories 3450 is correct figure for me?Should i count fat coming with carb meals or fat should be counted only preworkout or total overall for the day?( like i get some fat fromn wedges, i love eating iced finger buns and if i eat 4 of them i get 21gm of fat)

Those bars most likely have nut protein that you should count, but don't eat them they suck.Fat counts from the whole day. That might be correct for your needs, I was just asking. Don't worry about being so exact and hitting certain set numbers every day.Aim for roughly 1g per lbs in protein, if you over shoot some big deal. Aim for .75-1g fat per lbs, again if you ever shoot it isn't that big of a deal.Then fill in the rest with carbs. Don't worry about tracking things to perfectly and being so damn anal about it.

cheers mate. so 3450 maintenance is ok for me ? how much surplus should i go to build muscle and not get fat?

Again, don't go crazy about it.Just eat a little more food then you otherwise might, be full but don't be sick or eat like a fat ass, train hard and sleep. Setting a number of calories needed to gain muscle while controlling fat is stupid and damn near impossible.

According to the book a 155 lbs person should be eating 570 gm carbs. is it correct thn?

That is a rough estimation of the max glycogen they can hold, not something to aim for.

Any advice on nicotine gum coz sometimes i take 4mg pre workout

[Trevor G Fullbright]

Take it in the morning too.I take 4mg in the morning, 4 about 1-2 hours before workouts, and sometimes another 4mg sometime.

[Punjabi_virus]

Take it in the morning too.I take 4mg in the morning, 4 about 1-2 hours before workouts, and sometimes another 4mg sometime.

So you dont drink am accelerator shake? i wake up 3.30 in the morning for work and have my am shake and then after aboy one and half hour i have a tbspoon of peanut butter and at 7am i have my breakfast of sausages with olives and some other greens and cheese. so should i skip am shake and have gum instead?

[Trevor G Fullbright]

Take it in the morning too.I take 4mg in the morning, 4 about 1-2 hours before workouts, and sometimes another 4mg sometime.

So you dont drink am accelerator shake? i wake up 3.30 in the morning for work and have my am shake and then after aboy one and half hour i have a tbspoon of peanut butter and at 7am i have my breakfast of sausages with olives and some other greens and cheese. so should i skip am shake and have gum instead?

I normally don't eat until around 13 hours of fasting, mostly because it works with my scheduled. Just do what works what for you.

[Punjabi_virus]

Take it in the morning too.I take 4mg in the morning, 4 about 1-2 hours before workouts, and sometimes another 4mg sometime.

So you dont drink am accelerator shake? i wake up 3.30 in the morning for work and have my am shake and then after aboy one and half hour i have a tbspoon of peanut butter and at 7am i have my breakfast of sausages with olives and some other greens and cheese. so should i skip am shake and have gum instead?

I normally don't eat until around 13 hours of fasting, mostly because it works with my scheduled. Just do what works what for you.

Did u check my routine on page 1? its really weird. Maybe you can give me some advice on that

[Trevor G Fullbright]

I did, and you just need to do what works for you. It's weird so you have to play around with it to make it work for you.

[Punjabi_virus]

I did, and you just need to do what works for you. It's weird so you have to play around with it to make it work for you.

i cant really figure it out atm

[Punjabi_virus]

any idea about cookies for backloading? (i like oreo cookies but they have lot of fat)

[Trevor G Fullbright]

learn to bake

[Punjabi_virus]

pizza for backloading? once or twice a week?

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