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March 13, 2013 at 3:56 am #7273
weight listnerKeymasterHI, I've been trying to put on some muscle with CBL, its been good, workouts more intense and I'm getting big but I have had to start cutting trees down and splitting firewood all day, then I'll be working on construction sites, is it a waste of time training at the end of the day when I'm tired and sore + have no rest the next day? or should I just train once a week on weekends? is CBL my best option or should I eat carbs all day to fuel my muscles? I used to eat oats, milk, bread, fruit, pasta, etc. I havn't noticed any difference in bodyfat scince switching to CBL, tho I've been backloading every day and I'm lifting better and feeling stronger. There's about an inch covering my abs, doesn't realy bother me at the moment, just want to increase muscle bulk.
March 13, 2013 at 4:01 am #159095
Trevor G FullbrightModeratorStuff like that will hardly if at all interfer with your recovery once you get used to it.Just keep working with smart volume/intensity. Maybe cut it some while you adjust.
March 13, 2013 at 12:59 pm #159096
FairyGuestMake sure you take one FULL rest day each week. No excuses.
March 13, 2013 at 2:45 pm #159097
ipcheckGuestYou don't need no day off, wait approximately 36 hours between sessions for each muscle. You don't need a day off. You work hard, you will gain muscle.You just need to know how to do it right, your sleep has got to be in check, your nutrition has got to be in check check check check. Its that important.Sleep and nutrition are sometimes more important then the lifting itself and your days offfff.I push and pull twice daily, 6 days a week, only reason I take Sundays off is to please my woman and kid with time and companion for a full day.
March 13, 2013 at 2:51 pm #159098
.josh.GuestYou don't need no day off, wait approximately 36 hours between sessions for each muscle. You don't need a day off. You work hard, you will gain muscle.You just need to know how to do it right, your sleep has got to be in check, your nutrition has got to be in check check check check. Its that important.Sleep and nutrition are sometimes more important then the lifting itself and your days offfff.I push and pull twice daily, 6 days a week, only reason I take Sundays off is to please my woman and kid with time and companion for a full day.
You are clearly an intense guy, and that's an impressive amount of working out... but I don't think that works for everyone. If taking a day off (or scheduling particular days for 'active recovery') will allow you to hit the weights that much harder during your workouts, then you should take a day off. The most important thing is that you're making constant progress with your main lifts, not beating the shit out of yourself day after day... particularly if you're relatively new to serious lifting.
March 13, 2013 at 3:01 pm #159099
ipcheckGuestYou don't need no day off, wait approximately 36 hours between sessions for each muscle. You don't need a day off. You work hard, you will gain muscle.You just need to know how to do it right, your sleep has got to be in check, your nutrition has got to be in check check check check. Its that important.Sleep and nutrition are sometimes more important then the lifting itself and your days offfff.I push and pull twice daily, 6 days a week, only reason I take Sundays off is to please my woman and kid with time and companion for a full day.
You are clearly an intense guy, and that's an impressive amount of working out... but I don't think that works for everyone. If taking a day off (or scheduling particular days for 'active recovery') will allow you to hit the weights that much harder during your workouts, then you should take a day off. The most important thing is that you're making constant progress with your main lifts, not beating the shit out of yourself day after day... particularly if you're relatively new to serious lifting.
I have stated this before.Serious lifting is not for noobs.But I was a noob once and the more I slacked the pussier I was.I only got stronger when I worked harder.I read so many articles, I followed so many people and nothing ever worked better than straight hard work.Learn your body, push it to its limits every single day, the limits will be further each time and you will me MORE you every time you push.Don't give up because of pain, don't stop because it seems like you should not continue, only stop if you can't go no more, this is the only way to go forward, don't take 1 step back for every two steps you take forward.Move forward, I'm only a determined person, a guy after his goals, I'm nothing special, I'm no more than you.
March 13, 2013 at 3:22 pm #159100
.josh.GuestI have stated this before.Serious lifting is not for noobs.But I was a noob once and the more I slacked the pussier I was.I only got stronger when I worked harder.I read so many articles, I followed so many people and nothing ever worked better than straight hard work.Learn your body, push it to its limits every single day, the limits will be further each time and you will me MORE you every time you push.Don't give up because of pain, don't stop because it seems like you should not continue, only stop if you can't go no more, this is the only way to go forward, don't take 1 step back for every two steps you take forward.Move forward, I'm only a determined person, a guy after his goals, I'm nothing special, I'm no more than you.
Hahah... not sure how to respond to the "I'm no more than you" bit.I agree noobs tend not to push themselves hard enough, and I get the rhetoric. There's no question it takes a ton of hard work to achieve the goals we have for ourselves, but to say that the only way to reach your goals is to workout twice a day every day is ludicrous. That's not feasible for many on this forum, nor is it necessary.That said, I do amp up the volume for a month or two a year and incorporate two-a-days, and it's undoubtedly the most fun I have in the gym all year. Not doable for me year-round tho.
March 13, 2013 at 3:22 pm #159101
15erGuestif ya need a day off, take one. if you're feelin good..keep going. you don't NEED to do anything. listen to your body is all you NEED to do.
March 13, 2013 at 3:27 pm #159102
ipcheckGuestI have stated this before.Serious lifting is not for noobs.But I was a noob once and the more I slacked the pussier I was.I only got stronger when I worked harder.I read so many articles, I followed so many people and nothing ever worked better than straight hard work.Learn your body, push it to its limits every single day, the limits will be further each time and you will me MORE you every time you push.Don't give up because of pain, don't stop because it seems like you should not continue, only stop if you can't go no more, this is the only way to go forward, don't take 1 step back for every two steps you take forward.Move forward, I'm only a determined person, a guy after his goals, I'm nothing special, I'm no more than you.
Hahah... not sure how to respond to the "I'm no more than you" bit.I agree noobs tend not to push themselves hard enough, and I get the rhetoric. There's no question it takes a ton of hard work to achieve the goals we have for ourselves, but to say that the only way to reach your goals is to workout twice a day every day is ludicrous. That's not feasible for many on this forum, nor is it necessary.That said, I do amp up the volume for a month or two a year and incorporate two-a-days, and it's undoubtedly the most fun I have in the gym all year. Not doable for me year-round tho.
LOL. I never told anyone to workout twice a day.
March 13, 2013 at 8:15 pm #159103
Gl;itch.eMemberIp how long have you been lifting with this kind of mindset? I gotta tell you at 4 days a week and nearly a decade of training I would snap some shit off if I did this kinda stuff. Frequency HAS to go down the longer you do this and the stronger you get. Max effort and intensity everytime works when you arent very strong. But when you get stronger you have to know when to push and when to pull it back. I agree with your sleep and nutrition being important. But youve got to be honest with yourself too. If you sleep isnt spot on (mine seldom is) and youre nutrition could be better killing yourself in the gym is a sure fire way to stagnate. Crossfit anyone?
March 13, 2013 at 8:50 pm #159104
ipcheckGuestIp how long have you been lifting with this kind of mindset? I gotta tell you at 4 days a week and nearly a decade of training I would snap some shit off if I did this kinda stuff. Frequency HAS to go down the longer you do this and the stronger you get. Max effort and intensity everytime works when you arent very strong. But when you get stronger you have to know when to push and when to pull it back. I agree with your sleep and nutrition being important. But youve got to be honest with yourself too. If you sleep isnt spot on (mine seldom is) and youre nutrition could be better killing yourself in the gym is a sure fire way to stagnate. Crossfit anyone?
Lifting like this since I started CBL.I used to do all sorts of strongmen training back in the day which sometimes would take all day. Well, when I squat 505, deadlift 505 and bench 405 I'll slow it down.I go to sleep at 12:00 ish and wake up at 8:00 (that's all I need)
March 21, 2013 at 1:29 pm #159105
Tracer-ActualGuestI agree that you do not necessarily NEED a rest day – that being said, if you have a rest day where you eat healthy, eat big, sleep in and just de-stress I think anyone would agree it is definitely worth it… and anyone who doesn't is probably not worth listening to. That being said - I work out every day. Sunday is technically my rest day - but I still do body weight training (generally a circuit).While talking about this sort of stuff - I also believe anyone who says that "Everyday you can/should/will/are better than you were the day before" (or words to that effect) is a moron. You will always have times where you are not 'better than your last' - they key is recognising this and pushing through, building that mental toughness, and not beating yourself up because your performance has gone 'backwards'. It hasn't. I wish I could find the study - but I read one from the Journal of Strength and Conditioning (if I recall correctly) that took two groups of professional lifters. One group followed a program for 12 weeks straight. The other did 4 weeks of the program, took 3 weeks off, then did the remaining 5 weeks. Guess what - they both made the same gains, yet group 2 got to sit on their arse for three weeks. Morale of my story - work out for enjoyment, health, whatever but do not feel you have to everyday to maintain your strength, fitness, health etc. You do not.Peace Amigos. 8)
March 21, 2013 at 1:56 pm #159106
Brandon D ChristParticipantIt depends on the type of work you are doing and how advanced you are.I personally think that you can some kind of work everyday. I think you lift heavy (not necessarily max effort) 5 days a week. The other two days you can do stuff like curls, calves, reverse hypers, back extensions, abs, and rear delts. I think this is better than trying to have four marathon sessions a week.True max effort work probably would be best done only twice a week. Obviously though this is gonna vary person to person.
March 21, 2013 at 1:58 pm #159107
maxwkwMemberTake a day and spend time with your friends and family. There's no reason lifting should be a higher priority than the ones you love.
March 21, 2013 at 2:02 pm #159108
Brandon D ChristParticipantTake a day and spend time with your friends and family. There's no reason lifting should be a higher priority than the ones you love.
Lol it's not like lifting takes all day.
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