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Do the calories and macronutrients in the AM Accelerator shake and in the preworkout formula count as part of the low carb calories when density bulking?
So the AM Accelerator, and the preworkout count for the low carb calories along with the recommended fat and protein intakes? If I do count them then I will only have 110 remaining calories and I will go over my fats.
So the AM Accelerator, and the preworkout count for the low carb calories along with the recommended fat and protein intakes? If I do count them then I will only have 110 remaining calories and I will go over my fats.
The charts in the back can be confusing.The fat listed it the minimum to consume, not that max.
I am having a lot of trouble making my meal plan, what do you suggest would be a good meal plan, I am 5ft8in weight 145 and I want to density bulk to 175 in 1 year, how many calories, fats and proteins should I have in the ULC part of the day and should I count the A.M. Acceleration, the Ignition Formula, and the Sustainer formula, also the recommendations he makes dont make sense if you want touse this especially for the protein I wouldnt be able to fit almost any in the ULC part of the day?
There is a thread somewhere on the forums about how to read the charts and use them.Personally, I think the best way to do it is 1/3-1/2 of your protein in the first half of the day and have 1/2 or so of that in fat is the easiest way to do it.
Alright so I am just going to post what I came up with and could you help me modyfing whatever is wrong?7:00 am A.M. Accelerator: 1 tbsp coconut oil, 12 g super advanced whey isolate8:00 am 165 g skinless chicken breast, 116 g avocado1:00 pm 165 g skinless chicken breast, 116 avocado4:00 pm Ignition formula: 2 tbsp coconut oil, 24 g super advanced whey isolate4:00-5:00 Sustainer formula: 32 g casein, 12 g super advanced whey isolateThis is before backloadSo far 1395 Calories,80g Fat30 Carbs minus 15.6 fiber141 ProteinBackload5:30 PWO Shake: super advanced whey isolate 30g, casein protein 23g, 52 g froot loops6: 30 first backload 300 ml fat free milk, 12 g super advanced whey isolate, 92 g froot loops8: 30 second backload 300 ml fat free milk, 12 g super advanced whey isolated, 92 g froot loopsSo far backload calories14089g fat253 carbs93 g proteinCalories at the end of the day are 280090 g fat280 carbs232 proteinSo what do you think 😀 I followed the chart exactly as it said except I ignored the low carb calories I am trying to do a DB to 180 pounds gaining around .5 pounds per week that is why carbs are lower and I personally think that is too much protein but that is what he suggests for each part of the day.
Alright so I am just going to post what I came up with and could you help me modyfing whatever is wrong?7:00 am A.M. Accelerator: 1 tbsp coconut oil, 12 g super advanced whey isolate8:00 am 165 g skinless chicken breast, 116 g avocado1:00 pm 165 g skinless chicken breast, 116 avocado4:00 pm Ignition formula: 2 tbsp coconut oil, 24 g super advanced whey isolate4:00-5:00 Sustainer formula: 32 g casein, 12 g super advanced whey isolateThis is before backloadSo far 1395 Calories,80g Fat30 Carbs minus 15.6 fiber141 ProteinBackload5:30 PWO Shake: super advanced whey isolate 30g, casein protein 23g, 52 g froot loops6: 30 first backload 300 ml fat free milk, 12 g super advanced whey isolate, 92 g froot loops8: 30 second backload 300 ml fat free milk, 12 g super advanced whey isolated, 92 g froot loopsSo far backload calories14089g fat253 carbs93 g proteinCalories at the end of the day are 280090 g fat280 carbs232 proteinSo what do you think 😀 I followed the chart exactly as it said except I ignored the low carb calories I am trying to do a DB to 180 pounds
I think you are eating WAY to much protein.Drop the protein to 150-180 total and add in calories from carbs or fat.You really don't need any more than 1g per lbs.You could skip the shakes like the pre-workout shake and the intra-workout shake. In fact newer info suggest to skip fast proteins pre and intra workout, then wait 1 hour post workout for the shake. And you could really just do 20-30g total protein instead of the 50g.
Ok so I am going to knock off like 50 grams of protein, but I really dont want to take out the pre and intra, but my question remains the same, should I count them for my low carb calories or not? Sorry if I am bothering too much its just I want to have the plan ready for monday and I still dont get why Kiefer suggest this shakes if I wouldnt be able to it almost anything in my first half of the day.
Ok so I am going to knock off like 50 grams of protein, but I really dont want to take out the pre and intra, but my question remains the same, should I count them for my low carb calories or not? Sorry if I am bothering too much its just I want to have the plan ready for monday and I still dont get why Kiefer suggest this shakes if I wouldnt be able to it almost anything in my first half of the day.
You will get better results in the long run without them.In CBL 2.0 they will not be a part of the program, read this.http://supplementblackbook.com/ Yes, count pre-workout as ULC, intra workout is counted as the backload.
So7:00 am A.M. Accelerator: 1 tbsp coconut oil, 12 g whey isolate8:00 am 39 g chicken breast 61 g avocado1:00 am 39 g chicken breast 61 g avocado4:00 pm Ignition formula: 2 tbsp coconut oil, 24 g whey isolateThis is the ULC part of the day61 Fats11 carbs minus 8 fiber51 protein776 calsIs this better? wow I am going to starve with those small meals hahaand I didn't reach what he recommended, but I guess net protein balance matters the most.
So7:00 am A.M. Accelerator: 1 tbsp coconut oil, 12 g whey isolate8:00 am 39 g chicken breast 61 g avocado1:00 am 39 g chicken breast 61 g avocado4:00 pm Ignition formula: 2 tbsp coconut oil, 24 g whey isolateThis is the ULC part of the day61 Fats11 carbs minus 8 fiber51 protein776 calsIs this better? wow I am going to starve with those small meals hahaand I didn't reach what he recommended, but I guess net protein balance matters the most.
Then eat bigger meals less often.I'd still skip the pre-workout shake but it's up to you.You just got to play with it.
mmm alright so this is what I came up with final decision please rate it 🙂7:00 am wake up8:00 am A.M. Accelerator: caffeine, 1tbsp coconut oil, 12 g whey isolate12:00 am 78g chicken breast, 5 fish oil triple strenght, 69 g avocado4:00 Ignition Formula: 2 tbsp coconut oil, 24 g whey isolate,caffeineThis is ULC61.1 fats7 carbs minus 4.6 fiber50 protein765 cals5:00 pm training6:00 pm Hypertrophic potentiator: 30 g whey isolate, 24 g casein, 53 g fruitty pebbles, caffeine7:30 420 ml fat free milk, 17 g whey isolate, 4 low fat pop tarts9:00 420 ml fat free milk, 17 g whey isolate, 4 low fat pop tartsBackload part23 Fats389 carbs minus some fiber116 protein2273 calsTrying to gain 1 pound per weekSo overall breakdown3038 calores84 Fats396 Carbs166 ProteinAm I ready to go to walmart?
Like I said, be willing to adjust.Personally unless you are training insanely high volume I doubt you need more then 2-2.5g of carbs per lbs but feel free to experiment with it all.
Ok I just wanted to make sure I had the ULC part of the day set in right, I was afraid that it would not be enough calories because the book said to consume like twice the protein I am going to consume but with only 730 calories plus the AM and PRE shake it didnt make sense and I still think it is very low, but I will adjust my carbs according to my weight gain if I am gaining more than I need to Ill get carbs, but personally what do you think of the first part of the day, is it right or would you eat more in the ULC part and less carbs later.
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