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Hi Guys,I'm just starting carb night to try lose some body fat.I'm 74kg, and I'm aiming for about 2000cals.I'm planning to fast until about 3pm when I will go to the gym, (In the morning I will have a bullet-proof coffee with about 30g butter and 15g of MCT oil to get me going)Should I be planing to have carbs in my PWO shake or just pure protein, I was thinking of having about 50g of protein, too much for carb night routine?
Gorski, the consensus around here seems to point toward possibly adding dextrose and/or a ripe banana to your PWO shake to get your insulin to spike.The banana would help with possible cramping and it also taste delicious!
Carb nite straight up would be no carb post workout. How ever, some people will use carbs sometimes, depending on leanness, goals, and workouts. I would probably go without if you have never done carb nite before, and adjust as you go.
Carb nite straight up would be no carb post workout. How ever, some people will use carbs sometimes, depending on leanness, goals, and workouts. I would probably go without if you have never done carb nite before, and adjust as you go.
+1The only time I would recommend a PWO shake with carbs while using Carb Nite is:1. The person is very experienced with ULC diets. He has no problem consuming almost zero carbs during other meals.2. The person is already lean and muscular.If those two cases are met, 20 g of dextrose would be a good addition to the PWO shake.Side Note: While I am not a fan of using Carb Nite in the scenario I mentioned, I wonder what training split would work best. I actually think 5-6 very short workouts per week would be ideal.
Carb nite straight up would be no carb post workout. How ever, some people will use carbs sometimes, depending on leanness, goals, and workouts. I would probably go without if you have never done carb nite before, and adjust as you go.
+1The only time I would recommend a PWO shake with carbs while using Carb Nite is:1. The person is very experienced with ULC diets. He has no problem consuming almost zero carbs during other meals.2. The person is already lean and muscular.If those two cases are met, 20 g of dextrose would be a good addition to the PWO shake.Side Note: While I am not a fan of using Carb Nite in the scenario I mentioned, I wonder what training split would work best. I actually think 5-6 very short workouts per week would be ideal.
I may end up doing that coming up. At least try for a couple weeks, just to experiment with it.
I would like to chime in and say dont fast until 3pm. I would have some kind of protein at the 12-13 hour mark, maybe 14 depending on how much BF you have to drop. Maybe an AM accelerator or even solid food. Otherwise, in my personal experience, fasting for such a long time is not ideal, and can lead to muscle breakdown and a sluggish metabolism over time.
I would like to chime in and say dont fast until 3pm.
+1From what I understand, your body is in its natural fat burning mode for only 3 hrs or so after waking. And even during that time you can have fats (e.g. coffee with heavy cream, butter, or coconut oil) which is often better than nothing and should give a slight energy boost.
I would like to chime in and say dont fast until 3pm.
+1From what I understand, your body is in its natural fat burning mode for only 3 hrs or so after waking. And even during that time you can have fats (e.g. coffee with heavy cream, butter, or coconut oil) which is often better than nothing and should give a slight energy boost.
This is true, even more so since you plan to resistance train. The only times I don't worry too much about having something by the 12 hour mark is if its an off day, or I on the rare occasion that I sleep through that mark.
I have noticed a HUGE difference in between having a breakfast and fast for a longer than needed. Seriously having fats and protein in the morning, no carbs (at least stuff like toast, cereal, etc) will yield better results than fasting for 16 hours+. Just because you're greatly reducing the added stress of constantly worrying about food.
I have noticed a HUGE difference in between having a breakfast and fast for a longer than needed. Seriously having fats and protein in the morning, no carbs (at least stuff like toast, cereal, etc) will yield better results than fasting for 16 hours+. Just because you're greatly reducing the added stress of constantly worrying about food.
Hmm, I don't really have a problem fasting for that long in regards to worrying about food, I can seem to handle that I don't really get hungry.But I am worried about slipping into starvation mode and the body storing fats as opposed to burning them.I do have a sort of accelerator shake in the morning of coffee, 15g MCT and 30-40g butter.Maybe I should throw another one of those in around 1pm coffee and heavy cream maybe.I'm not sure about eating protein before working out, wouldn't that put a stop to fat burn, someone earlier mentioned fat burning slows/stops after 3 hours upon waking, so maybe some protein wouldn't be bad?
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