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Hi! I am really just wanting some feedback on my experience to make sure that I am on the right path!I started the prep phase 2 weeks ago and just had my first carb nite Thursday. I stay below 30g of carbs a day on every other day aside from carb nite of course, however, it is tough being a vegetarian, without eating meat and fish wish are 0g carbs, I am usually around 25grams of carbs.I wake with coffee with 2 tbsps coconut oil and 1 tbsp heavy cream. I limit heavy cream with coffee because I have it with tea throughout the day.My first meal consists of 2 whole eggs and 2 egg whites with 2 ounces of cheese cooked in 2 tbsps butter.My second meal usually consists of mixed veggies (10 grams of carbs) and 1/4-1/2 cup of cottage cheese (2.5-5 grams of carbs). Veggies cooked in 2 tbsps butter and 1 tbsp sesame oilMy third meal is the same as the first and usually before bed.I do have about 4 cups of tea throughout the day each with 1/2 tbsp of heavy cream.Occasionally if I have it on hand, I will have 1-3 ounces throughout the day of additional cheese, like aged Gouda for example; if I am hungry. End day calories around 2000-2300.I noticed almost immediately a flatter stomach, lack of bloating, increased energy etc. I lift or do HIIT about 5 days a week; when I say lift I mean lift. I lift heavy and lift til failure most days. For HIIT I do about 20 mins 1:3 ratio, then incline walking for 10-15 mins at 2-3.0. I know we shouldn't pay attention to the scale but I tend to fluctuate between 143-147lbs (I am 5'9). My measurements have been fairly consistent even with my flatter stomach. I am basically looking for someone to look over my stats and my daily intake to help ensure that I am on the right track and if there is something I need to adjust I can do that! Thanks!Abbe
Not to be an asshole but the only adjustment is to eat meat brother.
Not to be an asshole but the only adjustment is to eat meat brother.
Thanks for the advice, but I have no doubt that I can be successful as a vegetarian. P.S. Not "brother" I am a female.
Hi! I am really just wanting some feedback on my experience to make sure that I am on the right path!I started the prep phase 2 weeks ago and just had my first carb nite Thursday. I stay below 30g of carbs a day on every other day aside from carb nite of course, however, it is tough being a vegetarian, without eating meat and fish wish are 0g carbs, I am usually around 25grams of carbs.I wake with coffee with 2 tbsps coconut oil and 1 tbsp heavy cream. I limit heavy cream with coffee because I have it with tea throughout the day.My first meal consists of 2 whole eggs and 2 egg whites with 2 ounces of cheese cooked in 2 tbsps butter. Eat the entire egg. It's better to get the fat to protein ratio in.My second meal usually consists of mixed veggies (10 grams of carbs) and 1/4-1/2 cup of cottage cheese (2.5-5 grams of carbs). Veggies cooked in 2 tbsps butter and 1 tbsp sesame oilMy third meal is the same as the first and usually before bed.I do have about 4 cups of tea throughout the day each with 1/2 tbsp of heavy cream.Occasionally if I have it on hand, I will have 1-3 ounces throughout the day of additional cheese, like aged Gouda for example; if I am hungry. End day calories around 2000-2300.I noticed almost immediately a flatter stomach, lack of bloating, increased energy etc. I lift or do HIIT about 5 days a week; when I say lift I mean lift. I lift heavy and lift til failure most days. For HIIT I do about 20 mins 1:3 ratio, then incline walking for 10-15 mins at 2-3.0. While doing CNS be careful of lifting to failure, you'll burn yourself out and results will probably start to halt.I know we shouldn't pay attention to the scale but I tend to fluctuate between 143-147lbs (I am 5'9). My measurements have been fairly consistent even with my flatter stomach. I am basically looking for someone to look over my stats and my daily intake to help ensure that I am on the right track and if there is something I need to adjust I can do that! Thanks!Abbe
Not to be an asshole but the only adjustment is to eat meat brother.
Thanks for the advice, but I have no doubt that I can be successful as a vegetarian. P.S. Not "brother" I am a female.
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No worries 😉
+1 on the advice from tex.Having dairy fat and whole eggs will make it much easier doing this as a vegetarian, but be aware that if you stall the amount of cheese you are eating will almost surely be the cause.And lifting to failure, while effect in most cases, it's a good way to burn your CNS out if lifting 5 days a week while running this kind of program, so if you don't want to cut back yet, just keep that in mind for the future.
+1 on the advice from tex.Having dairy fat and whole eggs will make it much easier doing this as a vegetarian, but be aware that if you stall the amount of cheese you are eating will almost surely be the cause.And lifting to failure, while effect in most cases, it's a good way to burn your CNS out if lifting 5 days a week while running this kind of program, so if you don't want to cut back yet, just keep that in mind for the future.
Trevorxgage - Thanks for the post! I lift about 3-4 days and do HIIT on the treadmill the other day(s). I do Kiefer's workout with my husband as well as shockwave, etc. I have gotten great results so far; my stomach is flatter, I haven't experienced bloating, and with the fat intake I have with eggs, butter, cheese, and cream, I find myself less hungry then I used to be eating egg whites and vegetables as the bulk of my diet. I actually feel happier eating the higher the fat, even though it was a large change to my previous mindset! What do you mean by "if you stall the amount of cheese you are eating will almost surely be the cause"?
Hi! I am really just wanting some feedback on my experience to make sure that I am on the right path!I started the prep phase 2 weeks ago and just had my first carb nite Thursday. I stay below 30g of carbs a day on every other day aside from carb nite of course, however, it is tough being a vegetarian, without eating meat and fish wish are 0g carbs, I am usually around 25grams of carbs.I wake with coffee with 2 tbsps coconut oil and 1 tbsp heavy cream. I limit heavy cream with coffee because I have it with tea throughout the day.My first meal consists of 2 whole eggs and 2 egg whites with 2 ounces of cheese cooked in 2 tbsps butter. Eat the entire egg. It's better to get the fat to protein ratio in.My second meal usually consists of mixed veggies (10 grams of carbs) and 1/4-1/2 cup of cottage cheese (2.5-5 grams of carbs). Veggies cooked in 2 tbsps butter and 1 tbsp sesame oilMy third meal is the same as the first and usually before bed.I do have about 4 cups of tea throughout the day each with 1/2 tbsp of heavy cream.Occasionally if I have it on hand, I will have 1-3 ounces throughout the day of additional cheese, like aged Gouda for example; if I am hungry. End day calories around 2000-2300.I noticed almost immediately a flatter stomach, lack of bloating, increased energy etc. I lift or do HIIT about 5 days a week; when I say lift I mean lift. I lift heavy and lift til failure most days. For HIIT I do about 20 mins 1:3 ratio, then incline walking for 10-15 mins at 2-3.0. While doing CNS be careful of lifting to failure, you'll burn yourself out and results will probably start to halt.I know we shouldn't pay attention to the scale but I tend to fluctuate between 143-147lbs (I am 5'9). My measurements have been fairly consistent even with my flatter stomach. I am basically looking for someone to look over my stats and my daily intake to help ensure that I am on the right track and if there is something I need to adjust I can do that! Thanks!Abbe
Tex-The reason why I decided to cut out the two eggs at breakfast and 2 at lunch was because I was very close to 30g of carbs a day. I wanted to ensure I was staying under; it is hard as being a vegetarian I don't have the ability to fill my plate with 0 carb grams of meats and seafood. Do you have any suggestions of other foods I can implement that will help the fat to protein ration without raising my carb intake?Thanks!Abbe
When large amounts of cheese is used it tends to cause people to stall, the full reason for this is something we don't totally understand, but it's one of the first things Kifer recommends taking out.I'm glad to hear you are feeling so much better, I used to do the whole low fat thing, at one point eating 30-40g of fat a day tops, I felt like utter shit, haha.It's true the eggs have trace carbs, you always want the yolk. I drop veggies before dropping yolks.
When large amounts of cheese is used it tends to cause people to stall, the full reason for this is something we don't totally understand, but it's one of the first things Kifer recommends taking out.I'm glad to hear you are feeling so much better, I used to do the whole low fat thing, at one point eating 30-40g of fat a day tops, I felt like utter shit, haha.It's true the eggs have trace carbs, you always want the yolk. I drop veggies before dropping yolks.
Really? You would rather take out the veggies? I don't mind that! I do love veggies but they hold so much more carb grams then the eggs I would feel more comfortable with my carb grams at the end of the night.With that said, I can't live on eggs alone. Do you have any suggestions for something I can replace some of the veggies with, without over doing the carbs?Additionally, I don't use cheese as the bulk of my fat or protein that is mainly the butter, eggs, and cream. I add the cheese for the flavor and low carb/zero carb nature. My husband mentioned that Kiefer mentioned taking the cheese out for females but that it wasn't something significant until I was trying to get under 12-14% body fat. Is think something I should consider at this point? 🙁
As a vegetarian, would be quite difficult to get the fat:protein ratio up without racking up the carb intake as well. Uhm what about flax seeds? I know of a recipe that is pretty much zero usable carbs and has a good fat-protein ratio. Tofu maybe? Just add melted butter to it. Sorry to sound ignorant…I'm currently looking online on certain foods you eat and could work with CNS/CBL. Will post more up here in a second.*Even almond milk too? just pwo can have a 50-50 shake (fat-protein). http://www.livestrong.com/article/89479-list-vegetarian-low-carb-diet/http://www.sheknows.com/food-and-recipes/articles/4408/stocking-the-low-carb-vegetarian-kitchenI'm sure you already knew a lot of these items but I figure I'd try to help on the low-carb version.
Yeah, veggies aren't even needed, so I wouldn't worry.Honestly, you are gonna have a tough time with food and CNS, I pretty much only eat bacon, beef, and eggs when I'm running CNS, if I use veggies it's mostly spinach, but even that's rare.I wouldn't take the cheese out yet. Wait till you stall and need to change something, the more tweeks you are able to make, the better.Avoid tofu, which you don't seem to be eating so that's good.If you don't have an issue with fish oil, I'd highly recommend taking 5g epa/dha daily, that will help with both body comp and health.
As a vegetarian, would be quite difficult to get the fat:protein ratio up without racking up the carb intake as well. Uhm what about flax seeds? I know of a recipe that is pretty much zero usable carbs and has a good fat-protein ratio. Tofu maybe? Just add melted butter to it. Sorry to sound ignorant...I'm currently looking online on certain foods you eat and could work with CNS/CBL. Will post more up here in a second.*Even almond milk too? just pwo can have a 50-50 shake (fat-protein). http://www.livestrong.com/article/89479-list-vegetarian-low-carb-diet/http://www.sheknows.com/food-and-recipes/articles/4408/stocking-the-low-carb-vegetarian-kitchenI'm sure you already knew a lot of these items but I figure I'd try to help on the low-carb version.
I was actually under the influence that Almond Milk was frowned upon do to something in it that spikes insulin levels. Is this not so? I do have almond milk but only drink it on carb nite with brownies or something. I do have tofu on hand but again, due to its processing, though still healthy, I was afraid to consume and backfire my success. I did look over the Livestrong link you posted and eggs and dairy (mainly cheese, butter, and cream) I have not issue consuming; however, nuts to me are like a gateway drug. I can sit there and before I know it eat WAY too many. Peanut butter is the same way thats why that stuff is only boughten in preparation for carb nite!I love eggs and cheese and butter and all that fatty goodness I just won't want to stall on eating the same things day in and day out. Will this approach cause a type of biological stall or plateau?I appreciate all the guidance and help!
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