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Title pretty much explains it. Lets say chest is my focus/weak bodypart and tonight is my carbnite: would it benefit me more to hit chest tonight then hammer down the carbs, or should I hit something else, carb up at night, then hit chest in the morning full of glycogen??
Title pretty much explains it. Lets say chest is my focus/weak bodypart and tonight is my carbnite: would it benefit me more to hit chest tonight then hammer down the carbs, or should I hit something else, carb up at night, then hit chest in the morning full of glycogen??
Most of the things I've heard around the forums in the past suggest hitting it just before you carb up, however, after listening to Kiefer talk about the benefits of lifting with full glycogen stores, I decided to try hitting my lagging parts the day directly after the carb nite and I, personally, saw a significant improvement by working that way.
Title pretty much explains it. Lets say chest is my focus/weak bodypart and tonight is my carbnite: would it benefit me more to hit chest tonight then hammer down the carbs, or should I hit something else, carb up at night, then hit chest in the morning full of glycogen??
Most of the things I've heard around the forums in the past suggest hitting it just before you carb up, however, after listening to Kiefer talk about the benefits of lifting with full glycogen stores, I decided to try hitting my lagging parts the day directly after the carb nite and I, personally, saw a significant improvement by working that way.
+11 definitely gonna wanna do it with full glycogen, the carbs are better put towards performance as protein synthesis pwo is proven to be stimulated enough through the insulin spike from the leucine content of your protein or even better added leucine.
Title pretty much explains it. Lets say chest is my focus/weak bodypart and tonight is my carbnite: would it benefit me more to hit chest tonight then hammer down the carbs, or should I hit something else, carb up at night, then hit chest in the morning full of glycogen??
Most of the things I've heard around the forums in the past suggest hitting it just before you carb up, however, after listening to Kiefer talk about the benefits of lifting with full glycogen stores, I decided to try hitting my lagging parts the day directly after the carb nite and I, personally, saw a significant improvement by working that way.
+11 definitely gonna wanna do it with full glycogen, the carbs are better put towards performance as protein synthesis pwo is proven to be stimulated enough through the insulin spike from the leucine content of your protein or even better added leucine.
This is pretty much the way I've been approaching it. I definitely don't want to neglect my legs, but my goals for increasing size and strength definitely apply more to areas like my chest and shoulders so I've been training legs just before slamming the carbs on CN and training chest/shoulders the following day.
I know that Kiefer puts his clients CN on the days he has them train on their lagging body part. Like Legs for example. At least this is what I heard from a podcast. If anything, if you have multiple lagging parts do the main one on the CN and the next morning do the other.
I know that Kiefer puts his clients CN on the days he has them train on their lagging body part. Like Legs for example. At least this is what I heard from a podcast. If anything, if you have multiple lagging parts do the main one on the CN and the next morning do the other.
yeah I have to disagree with everyone above this. Insulin has one function to make things grow. So if you train, make your cells ubber sensative and feed the beast, your going to push all the nutrients to the lagging body part. There are better ways to deplete your glycogen stores which is the point of CN.
Eh yeah it was just suggestions to make. Remember grain of salt. I'd just put a training plan together, kick some ass every time I go.
Eh yeah it was just suggestions to make. Remember grain of salt. I'd just put a training plan together, kick some ass every time I go.
negativity today tex...
My only issue with training a lagging body part on a CN is that I'm not likely to have the energy to push hard enough for it to feel like nearly as effective a workout as the day after a CN.
My only issue with training a lagging body part on a CN is that I'm not likely to have the energy to push hard enough for it to feel like nearly as effective a workout as the day after a CN.
+1 thats the problem I would have, there is no way I would be able to go in a destroy legs with the sort of intensity id want after being ULC for 5-6 days.
Eh yeah it was just suggestions to make. Remember grain of salt. I'd just put a training plan together, kick some ass every time I go.
negativity today tex...
Sorry man..wasn't thinking straight yesterday. I had a horrible day and was too tired/stressed out.
My only issue with training a lagging body part on a CN is that I'm not likely to have the energy to push hard enough for it to feel like nearly as effective a workout as the day after a CN.
+1 thats the problem I would have, there is no way I would be able to go in a destroy legs with the sort of intensity id want after being ULC for 5-6 days.
This is why I was questioning my logic, but i'm sticking to it. Because your not going to be able to go 100% on CN anyway, if you take it easier during the week, and then the day of CN you go balls to the wall it might make it better.
I think this dependent on the body part. If the muscle group that is lagging is legs or back, I would definitely train them after the Carb Nite. Every other body part would probably be better before the Carb Nite.
Yeah, after thinking about it. Training a body part that you're wanting to improve the day after or two from a CN would be hella better. Ultimately I would rotate the days you train a certain way every week or 4 weeks. Hopefully this makes sense, but for me I have Squats today and Bench tomorrow. After a while swap everything around, still doing the same routine, just different days.
Yeah, after thinking about it. Training a body part that you're wanting to improve the day after or two from a CN would be hella better. Ultimately I would rotate the days you train a certain way every week or 4 weeks. Hopefully this makes sense, but for me I have Squats today and Bench tomorrow. After a while swap everything around, still doing the same routine, just different days.
I agree, definately base the big or lagging muscles around the CN and switch it up every 3-4 weeks or so.
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