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July 27, 2012 at 11:33 pm #2973
Matthew C GrahamParticipantHello,I'm on CBL and am going to be starting a 4 day shockwave split. My question is about cardio. My schedule is not conducive to morning cardio, so I'm wondering what I should do. I know HIIT is best, but not after strength training. Any suggestions?
July 27, 2012 at 11:35 pm #68356
pshannonMemberWhat are you goals? What are you stats? I would limit the HIIT to your off days if your going to do it all. Its not necessary. So do it away from your large body parts likes legs. Maybe after a shoulder or chest day.
July 28, 2012 at 6:59 pm #68357
Matthew C GrahamParticipantMy goals are along the Strength Accumulation lines. I'm 5'7″ 169lbs. I haven't been tracking my body fat because I haven't found a quality caliper or body fat % calculator for a reasonable price (Suggestions?), I go more along how I lookSo as far as HIIT, could I do it after my other 3 workouts during the week, excluding after my Legs workout? Or should I start without it? Would medium-low intensity, steady state cardio have any role?
July 28, 2012 at 7:06 pm #68358
Richard SchmittModeratorNo keep HIIT to only off days. If you do it PWO then you won't recover properly. Especially using the magic of CBL. You only need HIIT maybe 2-3x. I would stick to only 2x though. And that's pushing it.
July 28, 2012 at 7:27 pm #68359
Matthew C GrahamParticipantOkay, I'm going to start doing some morning cardio and see how it works. As far as the kind of HIIT I believe Kiefer recommends 30 minutes of 2:4 for strength accumulation. Is this okay?0-2 min. - Walking warmup - 3.5mphSprinting cycles - 8.6mphWalking cycles - 3.8mphAs far as pre-cardio nutrition, is 2 cups of black coffee good? Should I add coconut oil, 10g WPI?Thanks for all the help, I really appreciate it.
July 28, 2012 at 7:49 pm #68360
pshannonMemberJust coffee is fine. I honestly would say that cardio should be your last resort unless your really really trying to loose a significant amount of body-weight. If your trying to get stronger, I would ditch it. 1:4 or 1:2 ratio is good. 1:4 is recommended
July 28, 2012 at 9:11 pm #68361
Richard SchmittModeratorOne minute by 4 minutes?
July 29, 2012 at 12:09 am #68362
pshannonMemberOne minute by 4 minutes?
If your going by the book it would be like 30 second on 4 min off. Maximal hormonal response is even longer rest like 6 min.
July 29, 2012 at 12:10 am #68363
Richard SchmittModeratorAh gotcha.
July 29, 2012 at 12:12 am #68364
pshannonMemberI love taking over other peoples post Tex! also have you stopped cardio yet? its liberating to never do it, and you dont sweat at much which is the FUCKING best part! Seriously. Thinking about a rant tonight....got a good idea...thoughts?
July 29, 2012 at 12:27 am #68365
Richard SchmittModeratorI love taking over other peoples post Tex! also have you stopped cardio yet? its liberating to never do it, and you dont sweat at much which is the FUCKING best part! Seriously. Thinking about a rant tonight....got a good idea...thoughts?
Lmao yeah...sometimes it benefits other questions and stuff by personal experiences. Dropped cardio? I'd have to stand still f that's the case, but dropping HIIT...no not really or yet. I figure it's hurting my strength gains while on CNS. I am really thinking about taking on CBL SA and SW starting Monday...
July 29, 2012 at 12:28 am #68366
Richard SchmittModeratorRant…any inconsiderate people at your gym? Or rude ignorant people lately?…I've come across plenty in the last 24 hours.
July 29, 2012 at 12:38 am #68367
pshannonMemberRant...any inconsiderate people at your gym? Or rude ignorant people lately?...I've come across plenty in the last 24 hours.
Lets tag team a rant...I'll write one and then you mod it up with additional thoughts. It will be like a question an answer type thing.
July 29, 2012 at 12:45 am #68368
Richard SchmittModerator>=] post it!
July 29, 2012 at 1:05 am #68369
bbuchanMemberOkay, I'm going to start doing some morning cardio and see how it works. As far as the kind of HIIT I believe Kiefer recommends 30 minutes of 2:4 for strength accumulation. Is this okay?0-2 min. - Walking warmup - 3.5mphSprinting cycles - 8.6mphWalking cycles - 3.8mphAs far as pre-cardio nutrition, is 2 cups of black coffee good? Should I add coconut oil, 10g WPI?Thanks for all the help, I really appreciate it.
Treadmill's are not a good choice for hiit. It is very unlikely that you will hit your peak intensity while sprinting on a treadmill. I know for myself the treadmill doesn't even come close to hitting my peak sprint even at its fastest setting. Do your hiit on a spinning cycle or outside doing sprints.
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