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April 21, 2012 at 1:53 pm #1441
adrianKeymasterHi all, I did a search for this and nothing came back, so hope I'm not repeating a subject that's already been brought up. Can anyone tell me if CBL is appropriate for someone for type 2 diabetes? Whether it will work or cause damage?Thanks in advance,Adrian
April 21, 2012 at 6:06 pm #44033
Conrado TiuParticipantHi all, I did a search for this and nothing came back, so hope I'm not repeating a subject that's already been brought up. Can anyone tell me if CBL is appropriate for someone for type 2 diabetes? Whether it will work or cause damage?Thanks in advance,Adrian
sckiely, a member, has experience with working closely with someone with type II diabetes. Coming from a family with a lot of this, I would say that working out with heavy weights is certainly indicated for type II diabetes, but not necessarily CBL if you already have the pre-existing condition [(I sound like an insurance company 🙂 ]. CBL, depending on how implemented, may prevent type II diabetes. A modified CNS may work and that's where sckiely comes in, search him and PM him.Type II diabetes, depending on how entrenched and severe, can often be reversed. Do a search on bulletproofexec.com for type II diabetes, they've had several experts on their blog with recommendations for this condition. It's a good starting off point. But just note, their blog is not necessarily for people who train and lift.
April 21, 2012 at 10:04 pm #44034
sckielyParticipantI need to point out that I am a personal trainer and not a doctor. So please understand that what I have been doing is with people close to me who trust me and I work with very closely. One of whom is my partner. The other is a client that heard what I have been doing with my partner and I have been working with for only a couple of weeks.From what I have seen so far carb nite is very effective. We basically keep everything as natural as possible, so no processed food, even on carb nite.Depending on your workout schedule and type we have found that not having too much protein after a workout works better than too much, both felt very Sick when they had a big protein hit PWO. So this may be something to keep in mind, so we aimed for 30g max. Also I found it particularly important for them to workout before their carb nite. They also only take in about 300-400g of carbs then train heavy again in the morning.The workout in the morning after carb nite is the biggest of the week.
April 22, 2012 at 2:11 am #44035
julialadewskiMemberGood info! Thanks!
April 22, 2012 at 6:13 am #44036
adrianGuestThanks Conrad and Sckiely. I've already had a bit of a look around on bulletproofexec but couldn't really find anything very strong on the subject I'll have another look.My goal is to actually bulk up considerably over time as I've lost 40kg of bad weight and would love to replace that amount with muscle, eventually 🙂 Will carb nite allow for this? And do you think the fact that I have diabetes will hinder that?
April 22, 2012 at 1:04 pm #44037
julialadewskiMemberI believe carb nite would be best for fat loss while preserving muscle… Probably not the best for building a large amount of mass. I'm thinking, if you're looking to build more mass (and you've already lost the fat), then you could probably do a version of back loading. would be most beneficial to eat your carbs right after training, since you dont need insulin to pull glucose out of the blood stream. If you're not training that day, you'd stay low carb.
April 23, 2012 at 11:36 pm #44038
adrianGuestThanks julialadewski 🙂 i guess i can experiment a bit and see how it goes.cheers
April 24, 2012 at 12:10 am #44039
sckielyParticipantThanks julialadewski 🙂 i guess i can experiment a bit and see how it goes.cheers
CBL "should" be okay, as Julia said the training should clear the glucose out of your system!However this is very dependent on how well managed your diabetes is at present. The general rule is to over do the carbs and then peg it back! For you though I would recommend slowly building up and really getting a feel for how your body is reacting.Be sure to follow the strength accumulation template and make sure that your training is within the guidelines for the best impact.I would just suggest you start on a carb nite plan with 2 carb nites a week and add a day as you become adjusted. So even if you train 4 days a week, start just backloading on 2 of those days. Get a feel for it then add another day. Do this until you are backloading after each heavy session. Don't rush this process, keep it simple so you can see where things need adjusting.
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