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Hi !! i have been doing DB since march and so far ive gained kgs (70kg-79kg). Keep my abs a bit but from a few days i have been noticing some extra fat coming on my chest and stomach. I have a competetion coming up in june. so my plan was to bulk up to 90 till march and then CNS for 3 months. My nipples are getting puffier and cant see much shape on my chest and stomach is coming out too. So i thought you guys can advice me if i shoould do a mini cut or keep bulking. i still cant figure out my carb ratio for bulking so atm i consume 400-500gms.height-176cmbw- 79kgpreworkout macros(p175/f210/c15)postworkout(p70/c400-500)any help willl be much appreciated.
I would do a short cut.I don't know that I'd go straight to CNS, but I would drop 2-3 of your backloads. If you have any off day backloads I'd do those first, and maybe decrease some of the total carb load on your other ones, but that would just depend.I know John Meadows recommend during a bulk if things tend to get to far and guys start showing signs of mild insulin resistances they he will have them do a mini 4 week diet to reset.
I would do a short cut.I don't know that I'd go straight to CNS, but I would drop 2-3 of your backloads. If you have any off day backloads I'd do those first, and maybe decrease some of the total carb load on your other ones, but that would just depend.I know John Meadows recommend during a bulk if things tend to get to far and guys start showing signs of mild insulin resistances they he will have them do a mini 4 week diet to reset.
4 weeks mini cut? isnt it too long? i do backload on off days so i will stop backloading on off days from now. atm i consume 400-500gm carbs during backload 80gms comes from pwo dextrose rest from the food. how about 300gms caerbs for backload?
I would do a short cut.I don't know that I'd go straight to CNS, but I would drop 2-3 of your backloads. If you have any off day backloads I'd do those first, and maybe decrease some of the total carb load on your other ones, but that would just depend.I know John Meadows recommend during a bulk if things tend to get to far and guys start showing signs of mild insulin resistances they he will have them do a mini 4 week diet to reset.
4 weeks mini cut? isnt it too long? i do backload on off days so i will stop backloading on off days from now. atm i consume 400-500gm carbs during backload 80gms comes from pwo dextrose rest from the food. how about 300gms caerbs for backload?
4 weeks isn't to long. You'd need 3-4 to begin to adjust and fix some possible underlying hormonal issues.Unless you're on drugs there is no point in getting fatter because you didn't want to cut at the risk of losing 4 weeks of possible time spent bulking.
I would do a short cut.I don't know that I'd go straight to CNS, but I would drop 2-3 of your backloads. If you have any off day backloads I'd do those first, and maybe decrease some of the total carb load on your other ones, but that would just depend.I know John Meadows recommend during a bulk if things tend to get to far and guys start showing signs of mild insulin resistances they he will have them do a mini 4 week diet to reset.
4 weeks mini cut? isnt it too long? i do backload on off days so i will stop backloading on off days from now. atm i consume 400-500gm carbs during backload 80gms comes from pwo dextrose rest from the food. how about 300gms caerbs for backload?
4 weeks isn't to long. You'd need 3-4 to begin to adjust and fix some possible underlying hormonal issues.Unless you're on drugs there is no point in getting fatter because you didn't want to cut at the risk of losing 4 weeks of possible time spent bulking.
So i have a few question regarding mini cut1- Do i have to be in caloric deficit during minicut?2- what will be the pro:fat ratio? .5:1? coz atm im consuming very high fat3- i have to keep carbs under 30gms evreyday for 10 days and 10th day will be carbnite?4- Is nicotine declassified worth the money?
I would do a short cut.I don't know that I'd go straight to CNS, but I would drop 2-3 of your backloads. If you have any off day backloads I'd do those first, and maybe decrease some of the total carb load on your other ones, but that would just depend.I know John Meadows recommend during a bulk if things tend to get to far and guys start showing signs of mild insulin resistances they he will have them do a mini 4 week diet to reset.
4 weeks mini cut? isnt it too long? i do backload on off days so i will stop backloading on off days from now. atm i consume 400-500gm carbs during backload 80gms comes from pwo dextrose rest from the food. how about 300gms caerbs for backload?
4 weeks isn't to long. You'd need 3-4 to begin to adjust and fix some possible underlying hormonal issues.Unless you're on drugs there is no point in getting fatter because you didn't want to cut at the risk of losing 4 weeks of possible time spent bulking.
So i have a few question regarding mini cut1- Do i have to be in caloric deficit during minicut?2- what will be the pro:fat ratio? .5:1? coz atm im consuming very high fat3- i have to keep carbs under 30gms evreyday for 10 days and 10th day will be carbnite?4- Is nicotine declassified worth the money?
1-A cut by definition is going to require a deficit in your required intake. 2-Probably will be better with high fat 60% and above of fat, trace carbs, then protein. But it will require finding what works best for you.3-If your running CBL than the 10th day will be a backload, not a CN. Keep in mind that how many carbs you take in on that 10th day will be goal oriented though. Eating your max carb will fill your glycogen stores and you will likely remain full if you are carb cycling. Eating a lesser amount you will constantly be depleting and refilling. 4-Not sure, I'm against the idea of supplementing Nicotine. But thats just a personal bias of mine.
I would do a short cut.I don't know that I'd go straight to CNS, but I would drop 2-3 of your backloads. If you have any off day backloads I'd do those first, and maybe decrease some of the total carb load on your other ones, but that would just depend.I know John Meadows recommend during a bulk if things tend to get to far and guys start showing signs of mild insulin resistances they he will have them do a mini 4 week diet to reset.
4 weeks mini cut? isnt it too long? i do backload on off days so i will stop backloading on off days from now. atm i consume 400-500gm carbs during backload 80gms comes from pwo dextrose rest from the food. how about 300gms caerbs for backload?
4 weeks isn't to long. You'd need 3-4 to begin to adjust and fix some possible underlying hormonal issues.Unless you're on drugs there is no point in getting fatter because you didn't want to cut at the risk of losing 4 weeks of possible time spent bulking.
So i have a few question regarding mini cut1- Do i have to be in caloric deficit during minicut?2- what will be the pro:fat ratio? .5:1? coz atm im consuming very high fat3- i have to keep carbs under 30gms evreyday for 10 days and 10th day will be carbnite?4- Is nicotine declassified worth the money?
1. Yes, but you don't have to be crazy with it. Just by skipping off day backloads and dropping maybe 15-25g of fat or 30-50g carbs from a backload day you should be fine.2. On off days drop protein to .8g per lbs of BW, have fat between .8-1g per lbs3. Only on off days, still feel free to backload on training days. Like I said, don't go crazy and go straight to CNS4. It depends. It has good info, and it works, but for a 4 week cut it's not worth it. Prepping for a show, it may very well be.
I would do a short cut.I don't know that I'd go straight to CNS, but I would drop 2-3 of your backloads. If you have any off day backloads I'd do those first, and maybe decrease some of the total carb load on your other ones, but that would just depend.I know John Meadows recommend during a bulk if things tend to get to far and guys start showing signs of mild insulin resistances they he will have them do a mini 4 week diet to reset.
4 weeks mini cut? isnt it too long? i do backload on off days so i will stop backloading on off days from now. atm i consume 400-500gm carbs during backload 80gms comes from pwo dextrose rest from the food. how about 300gms caerbs for backload?
4 weeks isn't to long. You'd need 3-4 to begin to adjust and fix some possible underlying hormonal issues.Unless you're on drugs there is no point in getting fatter because you didn't want to cut at the risk of losing 4 weeks of possible time spent bulking.
So i have a few question regarding mini cut1- Do i have to be in caloric deficit during minicut?2- what will be the pro:fat ratio? .5:1? coz atm im consuming very high fat3- i have to keep carbs under 30gms evreyday for 10 days and 10th day will be carbnite?4- Is nicotine declassified worth the money?
1. Yes, but you don't have to be crazy with it. Just by skipping off day backloads and dropping maybe 15-25g of fat or 30-50g carbs from a backload day you should be fine.2. On off days drop protein to .8g per lbs of BW, have fat between .8-1g per lbs3. Only on off days, still feel free to backload on training days. Like I said, don't go crazy and go straight to CNS4. It depends. It has good info, and it works, but for a 4 week cut it's not worth it. Prepping for a show, it may very well be.
cool i will give it shot. im training tomorrow so i wont backload tonight. im not gaining any weight from past 4 weeks and i have changed my preworkout macros aswel but weight is still the same
I had the same problem while doing DB. Stopped backloading as dirty on off days, and took two ULC days per week.
There is a misconception about CBL-DB.You don't have to backload on off days to be doing DB, in fact you could backload only on training days and do DB.One of the bigger differences between SA and DB come down to total food intake and skipping breakfast or not. With SA you may wake up and after an hour or so have an AM shake then wait 2-4 hours and eat, with DB you'd ideally wake up and have an AM shake ASAP then eat a full meal 1-2 hours later. The frequency of your backloads should be determined by your training volume and frequency more then anything.If I was trying to gain weight and training 4 days a week, I'd backload more then likely 5 days a week total. Right now I train 6-7 days a week, 2 times a day, I pretty much have to backload every day to keep up with that.
I would do a few weeks of the SA protocol. Fast for 12-14 hours and have 3 backloads a week. You don't need to figure out a calorie deficit. Simply reducing your food intake via carb restriction will do the trick. You can do CNS as well, but SA will do the job too.The body can only be anabolic so long before it starts getting fatter. You can't bulk forever, you have to eventually give your body a break.
I backloaded on Friday but couldn't go gym on Saturday and I backloaded again on Saturday but got stuck again at work so continuously backloaded for 2 days without hitting the gym. I just wanted you guys to have a look at my macros I'm 79(174lbs) atm. Pre workout – p180/f215 . Pwo- p80/f30-40/ c450I tried to eat more carbs in that 4 hrs backload window but I can't eat more than that
I backloaded on Friday but couldn't go gym on Saturday and I backloaded again on Saturday but got stuck again at work so continuously backloaded for 2 days without hitting the gym. I just wanted you guys to have a look at my macros I'm 79(174lbs) atm. Pre workout - p180/f215 . Pwo- p80/f30-40/ c450I tried to eat more carbs in that 4 hrs backload window but I can't eat more than that
Your macros are fine, except your protein consumption is much higher than necessary.
I backloaded on Friday but couldn't go gym on Saturday and I backloaded again on Saturday but got stuck again at work so continuously backloaded for 2 days without hitting the gym. I just wanted you guys to have a look at my macros I'm 79(174lbs) atm. Pre workout - p180/f215 . Pwo- p80/f30-40/ c450I tried to eat more carbs in that 4 hrs backload window but I can't eat more than that
Your macros are fine, except your protein consumption is much higher than necessary.
how about p200gm?sometimes coz of work i hace to workout at 1 and finsih around 3 so in the conditon when should i start eating real pwo and carbs??
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