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Hi I had a question about CBL. I have been doing the “Anabolic Diet” for a while and have done it many times in the past. My body does really well with fats for energy, my question is if did CBL how would the transition be from the anabolic diet? Would I still need to do the 10 day no carb or what? I am still not sure if CBL is for me too because im not in a lean state, I power lift and weigh about 275 and im 5'11. Entertained the idea of carb nite since it is essentially the anabolic diet but you don’t carb load all weekend. I think the 2 day carbloading is a little much because I just go NUTS on junk for 2 days straight. I had knee surgery about 5 months ago so im still not able to do my lower body very hard and i dont hypertrophy train, i train for strength/performance. Also I work out about 4 times a week max
Also I was going to add that i have trouble sleeping sometimes while on the anabolic diet. Sometimes i have too much energy from the fat and sometimes im burning up but cold at the same time from my body metabolizing the fats so i was wondering if CBL might help with sleep.
Did you see the article about Mark Bell doing carb nite? he said he actually felt great and his numbers during training didn't plummet. I would give carb nite a shot. do you have any idea what your BF % might be, just a wild guess? i know you said you are 275
Eh, man i really dont know. If i had to guess id say around 25%. And yeah the idea of carb nite doesnt sound horrible since thats almost what im doing now but with a shorter carb load. Im really gonna miss my weekends of carbs though, one night just doesnt sound fun. I am trying to lose body fat though. Currently doing west-side training so obviously strength in numero uno here. Sounds like carb nite is ultimately better for my weight to lose body fat, but i wonder which would benefit recovery and strength better.
Eh, man i really dont know. If i had to guess id say around 25%. And yeah the idea of carb nite doesnt sound horrible since thats almost what im doing now but with a shorter carb load. Im really gonna miss my weekends of carbs though, one night just doesnt sound fun. I am trying to lose body fat though. Currently doing west-side training so obviously strength in numero uno here. Sounds like carb nite is ultimately better for my weight to lose body fat, but i wonder which would benefit recovery and strength better.
There are differences between CBL and CNS and kiefer has structured many different paths you can take, but it all comes down to YOUR goals. So before you start, you should decide / prioritize what is important to you now, and go from there. That being said, i agree with you on back loads one night a week. It is tough at first, strength may dip the first two weeks but after that you will be right back where you were, once your body readjusts assuming you aren't over training. It IS possible to gain strength on CNS... i am speaking from personal experience, along with other testimonials on here. it's possible. Is CNS best for recovery? when training for max strength or insane muscle gains, its probably not optimal. CNS is more designed for muscle maintainence / accelerated fat loss. So without carbs you are limiting your ability to recover. CBL can be tweaked for fat loss / muscle gain and bodyfat level maintainence / density bulking, however a lower percentage of bodyfat is required for those optimal results. Training is also very important; what kind of weight are you moving? how many sets? how frequently? do you train for hypertrophy also or just strength? are you natural? It would def be worth your while to try CNS for a full month at least, so you can get over-the-hump and see how it works for your body when it adjusts. If anything you could govern the amount of volume in order to better accommodate your ability to recover
Yeah i hear ya, as far as whats more important to me, ultimately im always trying to get bigger and stronger but obviously without getting fatter. I am natural. And man its not even just that i couldnt mentally handle just one night of carbs but is that really enough time to replenish glycogen stores 100%. Seems like a “carb day” would be better but oh well im not the expert here. From what i know CBL is better for lower BF% so i wonder how much i could benefit. As far as training i am limited right now due to knee surgery a while back. I am on a west-side bench program right now, typically doing certain % and doing 12 tripples or 10 doubles depending on weight. So basically its heavy upper body training and just accessories for lower body. I do somewhat hypertrophy after the main lifting is done, just some hi intensity finishers/accessories, but not to the point where im not going to be recovered for the next session.
If done properly people have noted strength gains on CNS. CNS is designed primarily with fat loss. But with clever training and timing your training around your carb nite, you can exploit it to help you achieve your fat loss goals faster than if you weren't training.
Yeah i hear ya, as far as whats more important to me, ultimately im always trying to get bigger and stronger but obviously without getting fatter. I am natural. And man its not even just that i couldnt mentally handle just one night of carbs but is that really enough time to replenish glycogen stores 100%. Seems like a "carb day" would be better but oh well im not the expert here. From what i know CBL is better for lower BF% so i wonder how much i could benefit. As far as training i am limited right now due to knee surgery a while back. I am on a west-side bench program right now, typically doing certain % and doing 12 tripples or 10 doubles depending on weight. So basically its heavy upper body training and just accessories for lower body. I do somewhat hypertrophy after the main lifting is done, just some hi intensity finishers/accessories, but not to the point where im not going to be recovered for the next session.
If you do CNS long enough and get your body fat to where you want you can maintain THAT level on CBL SA. So in essence, you could do CNS for 2 months and never have to do it again if you are ok with 12% bf level (which is good if your big as a house!) From there it would be all about strength/hypertrophy and you wouldn't have to worry about fat loss (provided you follow CBL guidelines correctly). At the very least I will say, that CBL is solid nutritional protocol versus standard "eat your 5 meals a day" and take your 30 supplements/pills, eat your vitamins and say your prayers..... and all that mumbo jumbo. lolI would encourage you to do CNS for a little while at least; i think you will be happy with the results. And if you get a strength dip, you'll most likely see results in the mirror to keep you going/motivated. it's a nice trade-off 8)
Yeah i understand CN is still good for strength since ive always had nice results on the anabolic diet, however the 2 day carb loading just gets violent and im on the toilet all day sunday. my body prefers fat for energy more than carbs for sure. On carb night, how many hours are they talking about carb loading? Like 5pm on?
Yeah i understand CN is still good for strength since ive always had nice results on the anabolic diet, however the 2 day carb loading just gets violent and im on the toilet all day sunday. my body prefers fat for energy more than carbs for sure. On carb night, how many hours are they talking about carb loading? Like 5pm on?
Pretty much.6-8 hours.
Is it agreed though that for straight recovery/strength CBL is better? I guess if i didnt want to bulk up i would just CBL on nights i lift only. And for carb night is it just like the anabolic diet still? Where you want to eat lots of eggs,beef and pork? Or does it go at it a different way.
CBL is for nights that you lift only. In order to decide you need to buy the book. It is quite a read. If you want my opinion I would say go CBL. Do the 10 day prep and do SA and lose some BF, if you like it then cycle to DB. It seems to be popular opinion that you only need to do the 10 day prep before returning to SA from that point on.RB
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