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Do you actually think CBL is healthy?Insulin resistance is why people have type II diabetes from my understanding.Doesn't going from periods of very low insulin to skyrocketing insulin really screw up your insulin sensitivity?Do you think long cycles of CBL can lead to insulin resistance and diabetes type II like symptoms?
Personally, I think if you get fat mass in check, the rest of this becomes much less significant. Try finding a Type Two diabetic who is in shape. It doesn't happen nearly as often. Diet can induce insulin resistance, but backloading and even carb nite avoid this by kicking you out of ketosis every so often and thus preventing physiological insulin resistance.
You raise an interesting question so I did some searching. Every paper I read seems to have pros and cons such as “high carb diets have an influence on type 2 diabetes in black american women, but raising fiber intake seems to offset the risk factors”, then I saw a paper that talked about a high fat diet (which is also what we are doinf with CBL) and it was conducted on mice. When reading you can see that they were given almost no protein, hydrogenated fats and dextrose. But interestingly when they were given even higher animal fats the weight gain and low energy levels reversed and they were able to control their diabetes. you will get alot of data that supports both high and low fat diets, and high and low carb diets, but then get just as many condemning them. I wouldn't imagine that CBL is good to do every day, but how many days are you working out per week? Also, look at it this way. What if you were to work hard all week and eat clean with green or whole wheat pastas, blue potatoes, brown rice, then every weekend you pounded back 12 beers? Insulin control meet insulin spike!RB
A lot of the problem stems from an overworked pancreas. It's hard to tell whether you're overworking your pancreas when backloading. The usual problem is that people constantly eat carbs which makes their pancreas work around the clock to produce insulin, and eventually their cells become resistant to insulin.As Kiefer has noted, diabetics who are insulin resistance are able to transport nutrients into cells with resistance training by activating GLUT4. I would guess the extra help that the resistance training is providing to help your pancreas get nutrients into your cells would ease the workload on the pancreas and avoid insulin resistance. It always helps to keep things in context. What's good for the general sedentary population is not necessarily what is best or what works for resistance training people.The only other aspect I question is that there's not much of a place for fruit except for sub-optimal backloading.
There was multivitamin discussion before, but everyone seemed to think they were a waste of money at best citing lack of bioavailability of the nutrients and existence of anti-nutrients. I just don't think there are enough antioxidants in CBL, though I know whey is supposed to provide the same effect.
The fact is, we don't really know, we can only speculate. But I guarantee you it's a lot healthier than most people's diets, and it lets you eat yummy food while re-comping your body. You can't ask for much more.
You raise an interesting question so I did some searching. Every paper I read seems to have pros and cons such as "high carb diets have an influence on type 2 diabetes in black american women, but raising fiber intake seems to offset the risk factors", then I saw a paper that talked about a high fat diet (which is also what we are doinf with CBL) and it was conducted on mice. When reading you can see that they were given almost no protein, hydrogenated fats and dextrose. But interestingly when they were given even higher animal fats the weight gain and low energy levels reversed and they were able to control their diabetes. you will get alot of data that supports both high and low fat diets, and high and low carb diets, but then get just as many condemning them. I wouldn't imagine that CBL is good to do every day, but how many days are you working out per week? Also, look at it this way. What if you were to work hard all week and eat clean with green or whole wheat pastas, blue potatoes, brown rice, then every weekend you pounded back 12 beers? Insulin control meet insulin spike!RB
This is neither high carb or low-fat. Its a diet in which there are days your pancreas does nothing, and days when you completely slam it with high GI carbs.I haven't seen studies done on "carb-loading" in terms of overall health.
There is nothing in fruits you can't get from vegetables, including anti-oxidants. Anti-oxidants are also present in meat and coffee. However anti-oxidants aren't really significant when compared to glutathione from whey.Also CBL can be made healthy easily. ULC grass fed meat, wild fish, and some vegetables backload with sweet potatoes, bananas, potatoes, and rice. That sounds healthy to me.As far as your pancreas, you are actually allowing your pancreas to rest on CBL.
another concern would be the risk of gyno ive read in bb forums guys who over carb load can grow gyno hence why heavier indivuduals have it
another concern would be the risk of gyno ive read in bb forums guys who over carb load can grow gyno hence why heavier indivuduals have it
No that has to do with high estrogen levels.
it hapens from the spike in insulin from when your lean your realy recpetive to it hence why they say carbs are anobolic. and I feel my estrogen is elevated after backloading prob why so many folks on here complain about water retentioin. still trying to find that sweet spot I thought I had it the other day but then I over do it and spill over and look like ass for a few days
it hapens from the spike in insulin from when your lean your realy recpetive to it hence why they say carbs are anobolic. and I feel my estrogen is elevated after backloading prob why so many folks on here complain about water retentioin. still trying to find that sweet spot I thought I had it the other day but then I over do it and spill over and look like ass for a few days
We do you feel your estrogen is elevated?I believe Conrad, a member here, posted his T numbers a while back and they have raised since starting CBL.Also, insulin resistance is caused in part from chronically raised insulin levels.We raise are insulin levels but in a very punctuated manner and PWO. Kiefer has discussed insulin and it's anti-inflammatory effects when timed properly.Personally, I think CBL is healthy.Do I think eating massive amounts of ice cream and cookies are healthy? No.But more often then not my backloads are centered around white rice, potatoes, and baked goods made from rice products and dextrose.
well I was holding water sense starting this and I think it was a wheta allergen which is weird cause I lived off of whaet for so long and never retained water and bloated like i did when I tried bagels and eng muffins in my back load. but yea ive been tryin to limit sugar as well i think to much is why I was spilling over as well. now just potatoes and rice and maybe a donut or 2 or some turnovers seems to work best for me. Im abiut to peak for a show and was going to put carbs exclusivley aorund my workouts to fill out and stay full any suggestioins?
You hold water because glycogen requires water to be stored. If you over do the carbs you will store a lot of water. Go ULC for a day or two and that water will come off. It has nothing to do with estrogen. I would speculate based on what Kiefer has said, you have a problem with estrogen when that water weight does not come off, because women do not lose glycogen easily. Therefore the water stays. If you have that problem that is something else, not from CBL.
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